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Declawing. What are your thoughts?

Inhumane! Immoral! (54.64%)

Can be justified... (16.34%)

We wear nail caps! (3.48%)

Only for medical reasons (20.99%)

Other (Leave a comment) (4.55%)

Results based upon 1,034 poll voters

 

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Purred by: kajivar

May 6th 2009 at 8:41 am

My parents declaw their cats, and I don't approve. I would rather suffer claw marks on the furniture and scratches on my hands than do that to my boys. Sure, my parents' cats are active and healthy and seemingly none the worse for it, but I cringe imagining them immediately afterward. Try having your own fingertips chopped off!
Purred by: Lisa Walker

May 6th 2009 at 8:42 am

I am sickened by people who choose declawing. They should go through the same procedure.
Purred by: Elizabeth K

May 6th 2009 at 9:05 am

It's comparable to tearing out your fingernails! If there has been an injury and there is a legitimate medical reason, fine. Otherwise - never!
Purred by: Beth

May 6th 2009 at 9:24 am

My mom has had all her cats declawed, including the one we got 15 years ago who now lives with me. I've never been able to let him go outside, and we currently live in an urban area, but would have been nice to allow him out once in a while before. Anyhow, it's MORE than equivalent to ripping out our nails, it's equivalent to chopping off the first knuckle on each of your fingers. Disgusting, unnecessary and completely cruel.
Purred by: Cleopatra (Catster Member)

May 6th 2009 at 9:56 am

I know people have their reasons, I will never "throw stones", we all have our own personal choices -- Just never forget though -- This IS a form of elective Amputation.... sit on that thought a while.
Purred by: Lightning Strike (Catster Member)

May 6th 2009 at 10:23 am

My mommy did this once to a kitty she had many years ago before she knew anything about declawing and she keeps saying "If I knew then what I know now it never would have happened." She has vowed that it will NEVER happen again! It is not that hard to trim the nails and to train us to use scratching posts. Or your vet can trim the nails for you. Please don't declaw us!
Purred by: Alfie - DB #37a - Dearly Loved (Catster Member)

May 6th 2009 at 1:19 pm

It's cruel beyond belief and should be illegal as it is here in England! What are a few scratches on furniture etc. compared to all the pleasure received from having a cat.. People who have their cats de-clawed should buy a toy cat instead. Most cats will use scratching posts if placed in strategic positions.
Purred by: Niki M

May 6th 2009 at 1:26 pm

I do think it is quite inhumane, but I didn't know that when I had Squeakers declawed. I was sick of the scratches on my hands, legs and new sofa. I can't see well enough to apply nail caps. I know now how bad it is for them, even Sandy was declawed on all four paws, which is horrible.Unfortunately my apartment building has a rule where all cats have their forepaws declawed. I don't agree with it, at all, but I have no choice.
Purred by: Snowball and her Mom.

May 6th 2009 at 2:34 pm

Snowball is declawed because when we got her we didn't know about declawing and plus when we first got the 4 of them, they were getting in fights and hurting each other.
But don't say this is my opinion because it isn't.
I am completely against it, and I'm against docking tails too.
Its like having your fingernails ripped off!
Now that I know what its like, I wish I never declawed her, Snowball is my precious angel and I would do anything for her.
Cats have nerves inside their nails and so do dogs, and clipping them is on thing, but taking them out!
What pain!
Purred by: Dawn W

May 6th 2009 at 2:35 pm

Snowball is declawed because when we got her we didn't know about declawing and plus when we first got the 4 of them, they were getting in fights and hurting each other.
But don't say this is my opinion because it isn't.
I am completely against it, and I'm against docking tails too.
Its like having your fingernails ripped off!
Now that I know what its like, I wish I never declawed her, Snowball is my precious angel and I would do anything for her.
Cats have nerves inside their nails and so do dogs, and clipping them is on thing, but taking them out!
What pain!
Purred by: MesBeth

May 6th 2009 at 3:05 pm

For anyone considering this barbaric practice, research it. They remove not only the nail but up to the knuckle.... would you want to walk on 4 feet where someone has cut your fingers off to your knuckle?? What happens to the cat if it accidently got outside? It would have ZERO protection. CERTAIN death! DON'T DO IT!
Purred by: gothicolors

May 6th 2009 at 5:01 pm

It should be outlawed, plain and simple!
Purred by: Ashley L

May 6th 2009 at 5:42 pm

just trim the nails!
Purred by: Suzi

May 6th 2009 at 6:33 pm

I am commenting for both my boys. When I first got Kisa, it made sense to me to declaw him because he was scratching me, the furniture, and climbing the curtains. I sent him to his "grandparents" house when I was gone on a week-long business trip to Alaska to have him neutered and declawed at the same time. It was horrible!!! His paws were bloody for a week, and none years later, he still cannot stand to have someone hold his front paws. I felt like the worst mother EVER!

So, it is no surprise when we took in Myles, we were not going to have him declawed. My hubby still gets annoyed at his constant claw sharpening, but I would rather have a few scratches on the couch, then to think I hurt my own fur-baby.
Purred by: Pearl (Catster Member)

May 6th 2009 at 7:21 pm

I don't find being declawed bad. My owners got me declawed when I was just a young kitty. My sister, as well got hers out when she was young too.
People find it inhumane and keep saying "It's like cutting your knuckles off!!" Well, like cutting your knuckles off, it only hurts for that minute and soon the pain disappears. And it feels as though you never had your knuckles taken off.
So stop making it such a big deal. Plus, it's better this way because we won't be hurting our mommies or daddies by clawing them.
We never want to hurt them do we?
So I believe it really doesn't matter whether a kitty gets his/her nails taken off. It's all up to the owner and it's as personal matter that has its reasoning's.
Purred by: Pearl (Catster Member)

May 6th 2009 at 7:23 pm

P.S.--
To MesBeth, I've been outside tons of times. I'm still alive, ain't I???
Purred by: Boris (Catster Member)

May 6th 2009 at 8:29 pm

My meowmy hates declawing, she could never ever ever do it to any kitty-she would feel too guilty. But I know she does like having declawed cats so she will sometimes try to adopt cats that are already declawed (like me).

But yes, declawing is extremely cruel. I am declawed and I can't believe my toes are gone!!!
Purred by: Bentley aka... Mommy's Boy (Catster Member)

May 7th 2009 at 8:34 am

My mom had me and my sister Brandy declawed and she doesn't regret it. We had stitches in all of our toes but after the first day we were fine.We even pulled all of our stitches out in the first week and everything healed fine. We had totaled destroyed two couches and my mom had tried everything to get us to quit using the furniture and nothing worked. We see nothing wrong with declawing, my mom use to work for a vet and has watched them declaw a cat. Declawing and cropping a dogs ears are in the same boat...
Purred by: Anonymous

May 7th 2009 at 12:09 pm

I am posting anonymously because of all the vitriolic comments here. Declawing is a personal decision. All of my cats have been indoor, declawed, happy cats who have died of old age in a good home. Perhaps it is not the right decision for everyone, but the accusatory, judgmental attitude and words are not really necessary, are they?
Purred by: Cat Lover

May 7th 2009 at 5:09 pm

It should be BANNED!
Purred by: Edgar ~ Precious Angel (Catster Member)

May 7th 2009 at 6:53 pm

Well I will probably lose some furriends over this...(I hope not, but if that happens then I guess they weren't really my furriends at all) but sisfur Emily Felicity and I are both front paw declawed. Mommy had it done when we were tiny kittens pretty close to exactly 13 years ago. We didn't have to have any stiches and didn't bleed at all, probably because we were so little and we just had kitten claws at the time. We were batting at things and playing the day we came home from the amputation.

Now that mommy understands what is involved in the procedure she would neffur do it again. But we have been healthy and happy kitties fur 13 years and we get to roam in our backyard in the daytime.

As fur the hate that is directed at people who declaw their kitties... I think that is wrong. My mommy says that if she, as a human being, had to choose between living on the streets with no money and no health care, no warm shelter, no loving touch and keeping the ends of her fingertips, or having them lopped off and being given a home where she was fed, loved, kept warm and cared for then she would agree to have her fingertips lopped off.

Now I realize that those aren't the only two choices for cats. But until there are enough humans to give loving homes to effurycat in the world (and we all deserve one) without declawing them then I think the fine and admirable human beings who love us and our claws so much that they are horrified and outraged at the idea of declawing should maybe lighten up on the human beings, like my mommy, who declawed but provided me and my sisfur with a loving home fur 13 years so far and counting and who has made the effort to ensure that we are cared fur if something should happen to her and daddy.

purrs,
Edgar
Purred by: Edgar ~ Precious Angel (Catster Member)

May 7th 2009 at 6:53 pm

Well I will probably lose some furriends over this...(I hope not, but if that happens then I guess they weren't really my furriends at all) but sisfur Emily Felicity and I are both front paw declawed. Mommy had it done when we were tiny kittens pretty close to exactly 13 years ago. We didn't have to have any stiches and didn't bleed at all, probably because we were so little and we just had kitten claws at the time. We were batting at things and playing the day we came home from the amputation.

Now that mommy understands what is involved in the procedure she would neffur do it again. But we have been healthy and happy kitties fur 13 years and we get to roam in our backyard in the daytime.

As fur the hate that is directed at people who declaw their kitties... I think that is wrong. My mommy says that if she, as a human being, had to choose between living on the streets with no money and no health care, no warm shelter, no loving touch and keeping the ends of her fingertips, or having them lopped off and being given a home where she was fed, loved, kept warm and cared for then she would agree to have her fingertips lopped off.

Now I realize that those aren't the only two choices for cats. But until there are enough humans to give loving homes to effurycat in the world (and we all deserve one) without declawing them then I think the fine and admirable human beings who love us and our claws so much that they are horrified and outraged at the idea of declawing should maybe lighten up on the human beings, like my mommy, who declawed but provided me and my sisfur with a loving home fur 13 years so far and counting and who has made the effort to ensure that we are cared fur if something should happen to her and daddy.

purrs,
Edgar
Purred by: Carol H

May 7th 2009 at 8:43 pm

5 years ago, I "rescued" a beautiful Flame-point Himalayan, that someone had dumped out of their car, at a fast-food place. "Moochy" (398034) was fully declawed, and she is the cutest, sweetest little GirlKitty, and how someone could just dump a "defenseless" Cat out in the desert, just angers me, to no end! But it is "their" loss!!! She uses her paws to get messages (pats me with her paw) across to me, and does "Puddy~Paws" to my shoes, and to the scratching post! She's still a "Real" Cat!
Purred by: Stinky (Catster Member)

May 8th 2009 at 12:31 am

Declawing is wrong .. I rather have my fingernails chopped off before my cats. I would do anything to help my cats, so if it was a really bad medical situation, I would do it ... but just for that reason only. My little Princess scratches me ALL the time when she doesn't want to be pet and just be left alone .. but of course she would and does.. she's the Princess! But I would NEVER declaw her.
Purred by: Abbie McFlooferson (Catster Member)

May 8th 2009 at 1:40 pm

I had Alaidh declawed when she was spayed almost 20 years ago. I didn't understand the procedure and probably wouldn't have had her declawed had it been explained to me, but she lived to be 20 with no adverse effects from the declawing. She was also allowed to "claw" at anything she pleased with no repremand from me. My other cat Sammie came to me with all 4 paws declawed. Like Alaidh, she never suffered any adverse effects. I have no idea why she was declawed, though, because she never went through the motions of clawing at anything other than my stone fireplace. She did have trouble scratching behind her ears, though, so I made sure there were little brushes attached to several wall corners in my apartment...and she got lots of behind-the-ear scritches!

Abbie and Heidi are not declawed, nor will they ever be barring some medical reason, such as an infection. They claw at my furniture and ignore their several scratching posts. I also have scratches all over my hands (mostly from Abbie's rough playing, which is, admittedly, mostly my fault). *sigh* I put up with it.

If anyone has any suggestions on how to get them to scratch the scratching posts, let me know! (I've tried all of the common suggestions, like catnip, etc...)
Purred by: Krissie

May 8th 2009 at 3:09 pm

My best friends cat is declawed at first I thought how could you do that to cats but when I found out that her cat had been really agressive towards her and other people I changed my mind.
I think only if there is medical reasons involved or the cat is agressive you shouldn't get it declawed.
JUST THINK HOW IT WOULD MAKE YOU FEEL IF YOU GOT DENAILED. THAT WOULDN'T BE ALRIGHT WOULD IT SO WHY IS IT ALRIGHT TO DO IT TO CATS.
Purred by: krissie

May 8th 2009 at 3:23 pm

If your cats are clawing the couch heres a tip.
My cats did it all the time but if you get a scratching post and put it close to where the main place that they scratch. Whenever they start to scratch the couch move them to the scratching post. then as they start to scratch the post praise them after that they wont be ruinining your couch.
THIS ONLY WORKED WITH 1 OF MY CATS BUT IT'S WORTH A TRY ISN'T IT?
PLEASE DO NOT DECLAW YOUR CATS
Purred by: Abbie McFlooferson (Catster Member)

May 8th 2009 at 7:27 pm

I already tried that, Krissie, and it didn't work. And I won't ever be declawing my cats.

(Sorry for getting slightly off topic.)
Purred by: Blackie RIP 1994-2011 (Catster Member)

May 8th 2009 at 8:09 pm

My mom was new to owning kitties and didn't realize what exactly was involved in declawing. My bro and I were crazy little kittens, scratching up Mom's legs and arms and the furniture. The last straw was when Mom came home and found my bro climbing up the speaker grill on her very expensive custom speakers. Off to the vet we went.

In the interim, Soft Paws have been invented and Mom now knows what exactly happens when a cat is declawed. So she promised me that if she got any more kitties, she would reinforce the furniture and gently deter them from scratching in inappropriate places. No more declawing!
Purred by: Blackie RIP 1994-2011 (Catster Member)

May 8th 2009 at 8:09 pm

My mom was new to owning kitties and didn't realize what exactly was involved in declawing. My bro and I were crazy little kittens, scratching up Mom's legs and arms and the furniture. The last straw was when Mom came home and found my bro climbing up the speaker grill on her very expensive custom speakers. Off to the vet we went.

In the interim, Soft Paws have been invented and Mom now knows what exactly happens when a cat is declawed. So she promised me that if she got any more kitties, she would reinforce the furniture and gently deter them from scratching in inappropriate places. No more declawing!
Purred by: Blackie RIP 1994-2011 (Catster Member)

May 8th 2009 at 8:10 pm

My mom was new to owning kitties and didn't realize what exactly was involved in declawing. My bro and I were crazy little kittens, scratching up Mom's legs and arms and the furniture. The last straw was when Mom came home and found my bro climbing up the speaker grill on her very expensive custom speakers. Off to the vet we went.

In the interim, Soft Paws have been invented and Mom now knows what exactly happens when a cat is declawed. So she promised me that if she got any more kitties, she would reinforce the furniture and gently deter them from scratching in inappropriate places. No more declawing!
Purred by: Laura

May 9th 2009 at 12:39 pm

I put that it's inhumane and immoral, but now that I'm thinking about it, if it's for a medical reason and there's no way AT ALL to get around it - and not just because it's convenient or some crap - then I would reluctant do it.
Purred by: Laura

May 9th 2009 at 12:40 pm

reluctantly*
Purred by: Tasso - Adopted (Catster Member)

May 9th 2009 at 2:35 pm

Until there are homes for all kitties then no one has the right to complain when someone adopts a kitty and has it declawed. If the alternative is the shelter and a gas chamber I'm pretty sure the kitty would choose declawing.

There is no difference from tail docking, ear cropping and breeding pets with faces so misshapen they can barely breathe.

And the reality is, having them spayed and neutered isn't different either.

We do quite a bit, as humans, to make animals fit to our wants and it didn't start with declawing.

So to those that are all up in arms because it is mutilation just remember, you can mutilate by breeding Persians.
Purred by: Willie (Catster Member)

May 9th 2009 at 5:03 pm

I'm declawed in the front per the advice from a shelter owner where I was kept for awhile. I was so wild and unpredictable while I went through my adjustment period to become a house kitty. My mom didn't like the idea but she did take the advice and even now, she's glad she did. I can lash out at strange times when I feel cornered or deeply threatened.
I'm the head of my cat family and a wonderful protector/maternal type. I take care of my mom too. I love kids and am generally very friendly. Mom and the shelter lady worked alot with me and I made the choice too. The shelter lady says she could not have predicted I'd ever become so terrific.
My mom used to judge others severely for declawing but she has learned her lesson on it. I could never be who I am if others couldn't have worked with me!
Purred by: Rugrat {R.I.P my Angel 11/19/1 (Catster Member)

May 9th 2009 at 9:23 pm

I really believe that declawing is awful BUT as a renter I also know how difficult it is to find a place that allows cats that haven't been declawed. I am lucky and have found a place so luckily my Rugrat is safe for now. However if it came down to putting her in a shelter and her possibly bring euthanized or having her declawed then I would sadly have her declawed. I wish everyone was better educated about what declawing can do to an animal but I also realize that very few lanlords allow pets at all any more and those who do will view his carpeting / door frames and such much more highly than he will my Rugrats claws.
Purred by: Baltster 1990 ~ 2011 (Catster Member)

May 10th 2009 at 1:28 pm

It should be illegal. Most other countries see this, why not in America? It should NOT be force on a cat just because the landlord request it.
If it was illegal this wouldn't happen.
If it was illegal there wouldn't be a question, when going to the shelters to find a new friend, if you should have a declaw or clawed one they will all be the same. WITH CLAWS.
If it was illegal, people wouldn't think about declawing being an option.
If declawing was illegal maybe people will realise cats have rights and they are not possessions
They are a living beings with just as much right to the plant as we have. Their claws are there for a reason, they are theirs, not ours. They allow them to do many things, scratch, climb, and help with the muscle strength in the upper body I know there are many many people here that think it is their right or it is necessary to do such a think. BUT really you have to ask yourself Why do you except it. How do the other countries get on. If you look at the list of countries that consider it illegal to declaw. Ask yourself... well they managed it fine, why not us. They learn how to handle cats with claws, why can't we. Children learn to grow up to respect cats and their claws. If a child hurts a cat, they need to know it can fight back. treat them with respect and you will be rewarded with a loving friend.
And .....Yes, I live in one of those countries that it is illegal to declaw a cat, and we get on just fine.
Purred by: Cosmo (Catster Member)

May 10th 2009 at 6:13 pm

Our 2 cats are both declawed. We've regretted it ever since we had it done.
Purred by: Raza (Catster Member)

May 11th 2009 at 3:23 pm

Here's a fun video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq4DIHzs7bI


An interesting site

http://www.amby.com/cat_site/declaw.html

The following is a list of countries in which declawing cats is either illegal
or considered extremely inhumane and only performed under
extreme circumstances.

England
Scotland
Wales
Italy
France
Germany
Austria
Switzerland
Norway
Sweden
Netherlands
Northern Ireland
Ireland
Denmark
Finland
Slovenia
Portugal
Belgium
Spain
Brazil
Australia
New Zealand
Purred by: Baltster 1990 ~ 2011 (Catster Member)

May 11th 2009 at 3:46 pm

I'm not trying to annoy people with my comments I'm sorry if I have, I understand people here on Catster love their cats to bits, and would do anything for them. But I kind of think, if it was illegal to declaw some of these problems wouldn't exist,(Landlord, adoption problems etc)

There are rougher kids around and they often say that most of the people in prision abused animals when they were young.
If it was illegal to declaw, would it teach kids to respect animals (cats). Treat them with care and learn to respect them. If they get scratched there is probably a reason for it.
There are so many countries against it, are they all wrong?
We (in our country) have been pushing for dogs to keep their tails too. Many vet clinics have posters saying 'A dog has a tail to tell" trying to educate people that some breads actually do have tails. Ear cropping is already illegal here.
I admit it is the breaders that are at fault for that one along with the breading of faults like the short nose. We in our family have a kitty with a short nose and we feel so sorry for her when she has problems. But that's another story. (off topic)
Purred by: Raza (Catster Member)

May 11th 2009 at 5:10 pm

I read some cat asking if there was a list of Vets that don't declaw. Saying if they use those vets maybe the others would follow suit. Here's a list....

http://www.declaw.com/list.asp
Purred by: Willie (Catster Member)

May 11th 2009 at 7:45 pm

When a law goes into force, you take away options. The chances are I would not have been an adoptable kitty if I had not been declawed. (During my last trip to the vet, they were very happy I didn't have claws in the front!! )Making it a blanket law kind of leaves me out in the cold.

Better education and enlightenment is perhaps what is needed then. If people feel so strongly about it, they should write things and made their voices heard and provide options...

Human beings consume the worst kind of food for them. I'd like to pose the philosophical question if those things should be banned or not.

So what I'd like to put forth is the question what kinds of things laws should be constructed for.. .. ...
Purred by: Bailey (Catster Member)

May 12th 2009 at 4:14 pm

I am the epitome of aggression. Six years after being brought inside from being an outside feral, I still have massive aggression.

Mom knew what was involved in declawing. As mean and nasty as I can be and was when I was first rescued, declawing was only mentioned once. That was by Daddy. When Mom explained the procedure, the declawing option was removed from the table. I am pretty sure there are more than a few vet techs that wish I was declawed.

It was never and will never be an option in our home. Each Momma and Daddy and Food Lady/Man have to make their own choices on what to do with their little ones. While we hope the majority of little ones never have to go through this procedure, we will also never question what someone else does with their baby/ies. We just hope that anyone considering this does the research on the negative side effects that can come from this.

Remember, we are all here for the same reason. We love our babies.
Purred by: Ashley (Catster Member)

May 12th 2009 at 7:38 pm

De" clawing" should not be the proper term The procedure is amputation of the first digit. That would be our first joint on the finger.

Not only does it render the cat defenseless but the absence of those joints results in poor balance and muscle weakness in the legs. It also throws the cats spine out of alignment. It is torture. I must admit I had declawed in the past as my mother made me do it to save her precious cheap furniture. She was a mean woman. That is my excuse. I know cats can scartch as I have scars but, I would rather my cat scratch me then take away a part of their livelihood and essence of being a feline being.



Ashley Mom
Purred by: Disney (In loving memory) (Catster Member)

May 13th 2009 at 1:56 am

I live in Australia and here it is illegal to declaw cats
Purred by: Lisa Mom to Fluffy & Alex

May 14th 2009 at 9:21 pm

Wow, it looks like all of Europe doesn't approve of declawing! So it makes me think that the US still has a loong way to go in respecting animals, sigh.
I worked with an animal rescue that declawed many of the cats they rescued in order to make them "more adoptable". Although I don't agree with this, I think that it did help more of the cats be readily adopted. So more kitties got furever homes more quickly.
BUT why can't we humans learn to live with cats fully intact? I've done so for years. Only one of my current 4 cat companions is fully clawed & he really doesn't cause that much problem. Frankly, I have received more nicks from my kitties' back claws as they race across my prone body, but I figure that's part of the deal! (And I chose my kitties for themselves, they were already declawed-NOT my choice!)
I think we should learn to live with cats without removing their claws! Of course, we in the US also need to get better at decreasing the cat (& dog) population. Perhaps then more fully-clawed cats would be willingly taken to loving accepting furever homes, to live in all their grand cat glory!
Purred by: Lisa Mom to Fluffy & Alex

May 14th 2009 at 9:25 pm

Re comment by Ashley Grimalkin's Mom:
Maybe if the term amputation was used more often, the procedure would be less often chosen!
Purred by: Bill

May 19th 2009 at 12:44 pm

If I could have the life my cat has I would have my fingertips removed (or amputated) in a HEARTBEAT.
Purred by: Henry (In loving Memory) (Catster Member)

May 19th 2009 at 12:52 pm

For us humans, they would call ripping out our fingernails a form of torture. It's the same for cats when you declaw them. The things people do to their pets to suit their own vainities (the human's that is). Declaw them, don't like long tails - lop them off, don't like those floppy ears - prune them. How aweful some pet owners are.
Purred by: Miss Missy Mau Mau (Catster Member)

May 19th 2009 at 2:22 pm

sheepskin rugs draped over all leather furniture keeps us fur children from scratching. Mommycat and Daddycat both love leather furniture, but only second to us!

Also, we have cat condos that we scratch the crap out of!
Purred by: Bessie (Catster Member)

May 19th 2009 at 2:35 pm

We (3) get our nails trimmed by mom every week. We know we get treats after, so we put up with it....
although we still will complain & squirm...
mom just keeps telling us she will continue untill all toes (on all 3 cats) are done.
Then we run to the den to get our treats !!
Purred by: Steph

May 19th 2009 at 2:46 pm

People are acting like the vet takes the cat into a torture chamber and rips their "fingertips" off while awake. They are anesthetized. And yes, obviously, I'm not a cat, but I imagine there is some pain afterwards upon healing. There is pain upon healing after neutering and spaying too. Aren't they basically elective surgeries too?

I have had cats all of my life that have been front declawed and every one recovered with no lasting scars. They have all been happy, playful and loving, and seem to not even know the difference. One of my cats even wacks the vacuum cleaner with her paws, hard, and doesn't flinch. And why in the world would you ever let a cat outside, with or without claws? You think de-clawing is inhumane? Inhumane is what happens when cats are allowed to go outside and get into the wrong hands or are "accidentally" run over.

My biggest concern is that since there are many people that agree with me, that if de-clawing is outlawed, there will be alot more cats left in shelters to be euthanized, instead of going through a procedure that would allow us all (humans & cats) to live full, happy lives together.

Just because you love cats doesn't mean you have to live with shredded curtains, furniture, screens and bleeding cat scratches.
Purred by: Lynda

May 19th 2009 at 3:42 pm

Emotions run high on this topic and the vitriolic high road seems to be an easy one to take. I have an indoor cat who, if I can catch her, will be declawed. She was a feral kitten and two years later is still impossible to catch to clip her claws. Even if I could, I would be ripped to shreds in the process. My plan to declaw her has nothing to do with the shredded sheers and increasingly threadbare blanket, although frankly my option to keep my home from being destroyed should not subject me to hatred. What declawing her will do is give her a home with me for life. Otherwise, she will end up back at the SPCA and, because she is still so feral, she will most likely be put down.

So what do you think? Declaw or kill? Because sometimes those are the choices.
Purred by: PeaJay

May 19th 2009 at 4:01 pm

Before I make my statement, I want to say that I have had cats all my life. I'm 48 now, and have had them since I was 6 years old. I love my cats and we don't have children, so our kitties are truly "our kids".

Our last 2 cats Maggie & Emmy (both died last year at age 16 & 13) were both front only declawed...it was done at a time when that was just what was done as a matter of routine along with them getting spayed.

Maggie & Emmy were both strictly indoor cats..we NEVER let them out, and we disagree with anyone letting cats out to be chased, run over, terrorized by other animals or humans, as well as live a much shorter life full of disease, fleas and danger.

Maggie & Emmy never suffered any ill effects from it, they ran, played and enjoyed themselves. They Never developed arthritis or anything like that and they even continued "scratching" furniture right to the very end.

My mother who had a 19 year old cat that was never declawed had horrible problems with her claws as she got elderly and wouldn't allow anyone (not even our vets) go near her to trim her claws. She got her feet stuck in carpet all the time and was miserable and uncomfortable due to hanging a claw in the carpet and ripping a nail bed. Short of having her under general anesthesia to trim her claws, there was nothing we could do.

Our vets have told us there is no harmful ill affects to declawing cats..and that the issue of declawing is a social/human issue, and that cats don't mind either way. (as long as they are indoor cats, which ours always will be ). Our vets office has 4 doctors, one holistic, and 3 standard vets..we have asked them all what they think is ok, and they are right down the middle..the youngest and the holistic vet don't believe in it, but they also say there are no ill effects of it..the other two vets say there is nothing wrong with doing it, as long as the cats are indoor cats.

It is a highly controrversial procedure, but I agree with my vets that it is and has become a Social/Human issue, and that our cats could care less. After having 16 wonderful years with our Emmy & 13 with our Maggie (Emmy died of age/kidney disease..Maggie of cancer) They lived full, happy healthy lives and were never scarred emotionally by this procedure. Nor did they suffere any physical effects.

Having said that..we have 2 new kittens that are 11 months old now, and we probably will NOT declaw them. We are training them not to scratch as best we can.

I don't think it's near as cruel as people make it out to be, but I also don't think it's as necessary as many have made it out to be either. I think it should be a private decision between pet owners and vets after carefully screening all sides of the issue.
Purred by: Julius (Catster Member)

May 19th 2009 at 4:04 pm

Mom always asks people who declaw : "What would you do if declawing was illegal?" You would find an alternative way to deal with scratching, or you simply wouldn't get a cat. It's working fine in Europe from what I can tell--there aren't hundreds of homeless cats there simply because people can't declaw. Mom is a vet assistant and has seen ugly complications from declaws, not to mention cleaned blood-splattered cages and heard painful kitties crying as they try to take off their bandages. If you haven't witnessed it, you don't know what it's like.
We feel the same about any cosmetic or behavior surgery. Unlike spay/neuter, they carry no health benefit for your pet, only risks. Accept your cat as s/he is, adopt an already declawed cat, or don't have a cat.
Purred by: Julius (Catster Member)

May 19th 2009 at 4:09 pm

Just wanted to add, that unless you ARE a cat, you don't know if cats "don't care either way" or that there are "no ill effects from it." Mom works for 3 vets. All think declaw should never be done as a routine thing, without trying alternatives. One is against declawing, but has to do it for the job.
There are reasons other countries ban this, and reasons that it isn't banned here. I think it's because America is behind much of the civilized world.
Purred by: Baltster 1990 ~ 2011 (Catster Member)

May 19th 2009 at 4:22 pm

About the mention of saving a cats life because it is feral.
I have a question ... Is that kitty living in fear?
Also another question... If that kitty is living (I know you now know the kitty, and love it to bits) but there will be another kitty that adores and trust humans that will be put to death in it's place.
There are so many homes and so many cats.

Desexing is necessary and the humans also opt for this procedure. We need to control the population Human and cats, which is necessary. As someone mentioned that that is similar (elective surgery), I don't think it is.

Hee hee I was waiting for someone to mention allowing cats outside. Funny enough NZ is probably one of the safest countries in the world for cats. If you came over here you would probably be surprised. But that's off topic.
Purred by: Baltster 1990 ~ 2011 (Catster Member)

May 19th 2009 at 4:28 pm

About the mention of saving a cats life because it is feral.
I have a question ... Is that kitty living in fear?
Also another question... If that kitty is living (I know you now know the kitty, and love it to bits) but there will be another kitty that adores and trust humans that will be put to death in it's place.
There are so many homes and so many cats.

Desexing is necessary and the humans also opt for this procedure. We need to control the population Human and cats, which is necessary. As someone mentioned that that is similar (elective surgery), I don't think it is.

Hee hee I was waiting for someone to mention allowing cats outside. Funny enough NZ is probably one of the safest countries in the world for cats. If you came over here you would probably be surprised. But that's off topic.
Purred by: Julie

May 19th 2009 at 4:32 pm

My daughter and I have each had two cats and my brother has had 10 cats. All of them have been front-declawed and all of them lived long, happy, healthy lives with absolutely no health complications or psychological issues as a result of the procedure. I think it is a personal decision and should only be performed after very careful consideration and when absolutely necessary. Those who choose to declaw should not be vilified for doing what they feel is best in their situation. I find it rather ironic that those who harbor such animosity towards people who declaw their cats in a humane manner are often the same people who rush to defend a woman's so-called "right to choose" when it comes to abortion. They believe declawing a cat while it's under anesthesia is barbaric and cruel, but burning and dismembering a helpless human fetus in the womb is okay? Think about it!
Purred by: anonymous

May 19th 2009 at 4:44 pm

Well, I am posting like others as anonymous so I don't get crucified on here...

I have always been a pet lover, and have had cats dogs all of my life. I have 2 cats who are 2 years old, who are the apples of my eye. When my fiance and I recently brought a new puppy into the mix, our one cat did NOT approve. She was growling, hissing (never been much of a growler/hisser) and would pull her claws out...it has always been next to IMPOSSIBLE to trim their nails, even with the "pedi paws." Not only that, my poor cats have gotten their claws stuck in chairs and been crying and I've had to come and help them.

Well, when my cat Faith lashed out at my fiance and scratched him one day due to her anger (my fiance has come to be a cat lover and dotes on those cats ridiculously, btw...before anybody says he might have done something to my cat to piss her off), he said "we've got to do something about Faith"...so the choices basically became get her declawed, or give up my sweet cat to an already overcrowded shelter....hmm, which would you choose??? She just got declawed last week and seems to be recovering fine from it.

I have no immediate plans to declaw my other cat, however, if she were to become aggressive and jeopardize my puppy, my fiance or myself, or guests, she will be declawed, as well.

And I might add the fact that nobody has mentioned...yes, people have the right to protect their homes, but declawing cats also becomes a health issue for humans. As my friend who is a nurse pointed out to me, cat scratchs can be dangerous and get infected.

So before all of you judge, you need to look at the situation and respect the cat owners' decision to declaw their cat or not. My cats are not in any way less whole or less loved because of it.
Purred by: anonymous

May 19th 2009 at 4:49 pm

Btw, I will also add that it is more "humane" to let cats live healthy, long lives indoors as opposed to exposing them to the elements, other animals, and infectious diseases/parasites that are easily picked up outside. Both my cats are indoor only and while they enjoy looking out the windows, they know how good they've got it!
Purred by: Alison Shilling

May 19th 2009 at 4:49 pm

Some years ago, I wanted an indoor cat, so I chose a 3-yr-old declawed cat from the animal shelter thinking that it was bound to be happy indoors. With too many people going in and out, he learned to 'escape' and turned out to be the most efficient hunter I have known, frequently bringing back mice (and unfortunately sometimes birds). So it certainly did not impair his functioning.

That being said, I do not believe we should lop off bits of animals for our convenience -- we kept our Doberman's ears natural, even though people refused to believe it was purebred.
Purred by: Heather L

May 19th 2009 at 4:55 pm

Barbaric .. inhumane ... unnecessary ... I have a cat that has been declawed so I know what I am about .
Purred by: Denise

May 19th 2009 at 5:09 pm

Julie, this is not an abortion debate, it's about whether or not people think it's acceptable to surgically alter an animal to benefit the human, not the animal.
Abortion is a whole separate (and unrelated) issue.
Purred by: lungtaworld

May 19th 2009 at 5:12 pm

If it's illegal to dock dog's tails it should be illegal to declaw cats!
Purred by: Candy

May 19th 2009 at 5:20 pm

I read many of the posts here regarding declawing. The analogies used by the writers ranged from informational to delusional. I am unsure that the posters understand the impact extreme positions have on the casual reader.

I will pose a question here for you that I hope may put this discussion into proportion to its importance.

Do you have children? Did you give birth to them yourself, or did the Gynecologist birth them? If you had a vaginal delivery did you use any form of analgesic, injected, inhaled, pills? Did you decide a C section was the best choice for you and your family?

All of the above "yes" answers in some way had a negative effect on your baby. Yes, it did! I challenge you to get on-line and explore those questions as deeply as you have explored the issue of you or especially others declawing a cat.

A natural birth is unequivocally healthier for the baby and the mom with very, very,rare exceptions. No you aren't the exception, you would like to believe you are but no, you are not. Go read the issues on line until you understand why you are not the exception.

I am not teasing or hoping to cause dissension. I would just like to see some sense of proportion in this community on this topic.

Sticking your head in the sand and then using your voice to condemn others is not reasonable.

Thank you
I am an animal rescuer, I love animals, dogs, cats, birds, and all.
Purred by: Anne

May 19th 2009 at 6:28 pm

First off: I've never had a cat declawed and would hate to do it.

But as people get older, they have to be more careful of their health. Wounds don't heal so easily then, and even a very nice cat can wound you if he/she is sitting on your lap and something scares him/her.

So if a cat is really bonded with the human, I think it would be less traumatic for both to get the cat declawed so they can stay together.
Purred by: Anne

May 19th 2009 at 6:29 pm

First off: I've never had a cat declawed and would hate to do it.

But as people get older, they have to be more careful of their health. Wounds don't heal so easily then, and even a very nice cat can wound you if he/she is sitting on your lap and something scares him/her.

So if a cat is really bonded with the human, I think it would be less traumatic for both to get the cat declawed so they can stay together.
Purred by: Charlotte E

May 19th 2009 at 7:05 pm

My current pill came to me via the local shelter and his first owner declawed him. He's now 12 and we play the in/out game alot. The downpoint to his not having the front claws is that he makes up for it by biting.
Purred by: Anonymous

May 19th 2009 at 7:08 pm

We had a wonderful saint of a cat for 13 lucky years during which time he never so much as raised a paw against any furniture. When he was 10, we acquired another cat who demolished three couches and left scars on both our kids within two months. It was a very difficult decision to declaw but I do not regret it for a minute. Within two days of the surgery, the cat was jumping (not recommended) from tables and beds. She had pain meds for nearly three weeks and healed well without any detectable physical or psychological trauma. I think people who love their cats anthropomorphize them so much that they cannot see one basic fact: the cats do not have a detailed knowledge of the process of declawing; once they heal, that is that as far as they are concerned. For us, it was a choice between keeping our beautiful kitty without nails or finding another home for her. It would be refreshing for all the angry cat lovers to find a little empathy and try to be less judgmental. Everyone has a story.
Purred by: Baltster 1990 ~ 2011 (Catster Member)

May 19th 2009 at 7:59 pm

Oppps !! that's one problem with the internet. Your posts can be read so many different ways.
I hope my post have not been read as aggressive as I merly have been treating it as a casual conversation.
For me I do respect other people and the way they all perceive is the best way to look after a pet. As we all do it in good faith. Each country has it's own ideas and ways to look after pets. Hee hee you are talking to someone who lives in a country that has a law that you can't smack a child. One, where we are nuclear free. which means the American Nuclear warships can't enter into our waters. But we are strong on animal welfare, and we do have a few laws for that too. Declawing is one of them. I was just asking if was law in America too, would some problems go away? I have to admit your cats are mostly indoor only. So it is more excepted. But wouldn't it be good if the vet didn't do it at a discount when done with spaying. Wouldn't it be good if it was done only if deemed necessary like an aggressive cat.
All I'm saying if it was law to only be done on a case by case basis. At the vets discretion? Not as a norm.
If it was not just offered, as something you just do to cats. Should there be more info out there? Should the vets look out for what is best for the cats not their pockets. I actually do understand it may be necessary sometimes (for an indoor only cat under extreme circumstances).
Purred by: Baltster 1990 ~ 2011 (Catster Member)

May 19th 2009 at 8:13 pm

Oppps !! that's one problem with the internet. Your posts can be read so many different ways.
I hope my post have not been read as aggressive as I merly have been treating it as a casual conversation.
For me I do respect other people and the way they all perceive is the best way to look after a pet. As we all do it in good faith. Each country has it's own ideas and ways to look after pets. Hee hee you are talking to someone who lives in a country that has a law that you can't smack a child. One, where we are nuclear free. which means the American Nuclear warships can't enter into our waters. But we are strong on animal welfare, and we do have a few laws for that too. Declawing is one of them. I was just asking if was law in America too, would some problems go away? I have to admit your cats are mostly indoor only. So it is more excepted. But wouldn't it be good if the vet didn't do it at a discount when done with spaying. Wouldn't it be good if it was done only if deemed necessary like an aggressive cat.
All I'm saying if it was law to only be done on a case by case basis. At the vets discretion? Not as a norm.
If it was not just offered, as something you just do to cats. Should there be more info out there? Should the vets look out for what is best for the cats not their pockets. I actually do understand it may be necessary sometimes (for an indoor only cat under extreme circumstances).
Purred by: Candy

May 19th 2009 at 8:28 pm

I read many of the posts here regarding declawing. The analogies used by the writers ranged from informational to delusional. I am unsure that the posters understand the impact extreme positions have on the casual reader.

I will pose a question here for you that I hope may put this discussion into proportion to its importance.

Do you have children? Did you give birth to them yourself, or did the Gynecologist birth them? If you had a vaginal delivery did you use any form of analgesic, injected, inhaled, pills? Did you decide a C section was the best choice for you and your family?

All of the above "yes" answers in some way had a negative effect on your baby. Yes, it did! I challenge you to get on-line and explore those questions as deeply as you have explored the issue of you or especially others declawing a cat.

A natural birth is unequivocally healthier for the baby and the mom with very, very,rare exceptions. No you aren't the exception, you would like to believe you are but no, you are not. Go read the issues on line until you understand why you are not the exception.

I am not teasing or hoping to cause dissension. I would just like to see some sense of proportion in this community on this topic.

Sticking your head in the sand and then using your voice to condemn others is not reasonable.

Thank you
I am an animal rescuer, I love animals, dogs, cats, birds, and all.
Purred by: Vicky S

May 19th 2009 at 8:28 pm

Hi,
I am ambivalent about declawing. Many years ago, at my husband's insistence I had two of my house cats declawed. My female, Finn Razel, had no problems. Once when she escaped from the house, she scrambled up a very large tree like a monkey. A couple of years later, I had my little bottle fed baby, Squeakers, declawed at the time of his neuter surgery. He was a bit overweight and had sore paws for days. It broke my heart to see him gimp around. He did recover though. But I vowed to never have another cat declawed.

Fast forward to the present, we have had several wonderful cats since then, all with claws. My last "heart" cat was a loving, smart female Manx named Bobette, who I adored. She had her claws and was not destructive. She passed 12/2005 of sudden, acute kidney failure and I still mourn her. Annie Oakley came into my life shortly after Bobette's death. Annie was just six weeks old when my neighbor girl came by looking for a home for her. Annie has her claws. But I wish that she was declawed. I tried trimming her claws, soft paws and have every kind of scratching device on the market. Annie uses all of the above AND the furniture AND the carpets. She hates to have claws trimmed and has threatened to bite me numerous times. Soft Paws were a trick to get on Annie's claws and she would still claw stuff. Then, the Soft Paw caps would get lodged in the fabric. Which would A) result in a larger hole than just a claw would make or B) result in a mad Annie with her foot hung up in said fabric. Of all the cats I have ever lived with, she is hands or paws down the most destructive.

I have another kitty about a year younger than Annie named Gabby. Gabby is quite gentle and hardly ever scratches where she shouldn't. She is very polite about letting me trim her claws which means that it is over with quickly. She is much to kind to even attempt to bite me. She is my sweet, sweet girl.

On April 19th, I took in a ten day old abandoned kitten that my elderly neighbor found in his shed. Her mother is/was a feral or stray that never came back for the kitten. I have bottle fed her, cleaned her and love her so much it hurts. BUT-- the only way my husband has consented to having another cat is if I have her declawed. She is a pistol like Annie. I can see the writing on the wall. As much as I hate to do it, she will be declawed when I have her spayed. Our vet does early age spay/neuters. So, if she must get declawed, sooner is easier on her than later.

Declawing is dreadful but it is better than her being sent to an outdoor home where the coyotes, hawks and owls take an enormous toll on the kitty population. Or being killed by a dog, car or malicious human. Declawing her is better than her ending up taking a home from a needy shelter kitty. I will assure a safe indoor home with lots of love and toys.

I love my husband and he has tried to be tolerant. But it isn't the good behavior of Gabby that he notices. Its Annie, claw, claw, clawing everything in her path. Sometimes our choices aren't easy.
Purred by: Baltster 1990 ~ 2011 (Catster Member)

May 19th 2009 at 8:59 pm

Oppps !! that's one problem with the internet. Your posts can be read so many different ways.
I hope my post have not been read as aggressive as I merly have been treating it as a casual conversation.
For me I do respect other people and the way they all perceive is the best way to look after a pet. As we all do it in good faith. Each country has it's own ideas and ways to look after pets. Hee hee you are talking to someone who lives in a country that has a law that you can't smack a child. One, where we are nuclear free. which means the American Nuclear warships can't enter into our waters. But we are strong on animal welfare, and we do have a few laws for that too. Declawing is one of them. I was just asking if was law in America too, would some problems go away? I have to admit your cats are mostly indoor only. So it is more excepted. But wouldn't it be good if the vet didn't do it at a discount when done with spaying. Wouldn't it be good if it was done only if deemed necessary like an aggressive cat.
All I'm saying if it was law to only be done on a case by case basis. At the vets discretion? Not as a norm.
If it was not just offered, as something you just do to cats. Should there be more info out there? Should the vets look out for what is best for the cats not their pockets. I actually do understand it may be necessary sometimes (for an indoor only cat under extreme circumstances).
Purred by: Vicky S

May 19th 2009 at 9:50 pm

Hi,
I am ambivalent about declawing. Many years ago, at my husband's insistence I had two of my house cats declawed. My female, Finn Razel, had no problems. Once when she escaped from the house, she scrambled up a very large tree like a monkey. A couple of years later, I had my little bottle fed baby, Squeakers, declawed at the time of his neuter surgery. He was a bit overweight and had sore paws for days. It broke my heart to see him gimp around. He did recover though. But I vowed to never have another cat declawed.

Fast forward to the present, we have had several wonderful cats since then, all with claws. My last "heart" cat was a loving, smart female Manx named Bobette, who I adored. She had her claws and was not destructive. She passed 12/2005 of sudden, acute kidney failure and I still mourn her. Annie Oakley came into my life shortly after Bobette's death. Annie was just six weeks old when my neighbor girl came by looking for a home for her. Annie has her claws. But I wish that she was declawed. I tried trimming her claws, soft paws and have every kind of scratching device on the market. Annie uses all of the above AND the furniture AND the carpets. She hates to have claws trimmed and has threatened to bite me numerous times. Soft Paws were a trick to get on Annie's claws and she would still claw stuff. Then, the Soft Paw caps would get lodged in the fabric. Which would A) result in a larger hole than just a claw would make or B) result in a mad Annie with her foot hung up in said fabric. Of all the cats I have ever lived with, she is hands or paws down the most destructive.

I have another kitty about a year younger than Annie named Gabby. Gabby is quite gentle and hardly ever scratches where she shouldn't. She is very polite about letting me trim her claws which means that it is over with quickly. She is much to kind to even attempt to bite me. She is my sweet, sweet girl.

On April 19th, I took in a ten day old abandoned kitten that my elderly neighbor found in his shed. Her mother is/was a feral or stray that never came back for the kitten. I have bottle fed her, cleaned her and love her so much it hurts. BUT-- the only way my husband has consented to having another cat is if I have her declawed. She is a pistol like Annie. I can see the writing on the wall. As much as I hate to do it, she will be declawed when I have her spayed. Our vet does early age spay/neuters. So, if she must get declawed, sooner is easier on her than later.

Declawing is dreadful but it is better than her being sent to an outdoor home where the coyotes, hawks and owls take an enormous toll on the kitty population. Or being killed by a dog, car or malicious human. Declawing her is better than her ending up taking a home from a needy shelter kitty. I will assure a safe indoor home with lots of love and toys.

I love my husband and he has tried to be tolerant. But it isn't the good behavior of Gabby that he notices. Its Annie, claw, claw, clawing everything in her path. Sometimes our choices aren't easy.
Purred by: Mufasa (Catster Member)

May 19th 2009 at 11:45 pm

I have two brothers and a sister, my mom keeps scratching post//tree available for us, although my younger brother Milo tends to get into trouble when wanting extra attention from mom, generally, the post/tree works great for us. Declawing us, my mom wouldn't think of it, she says it is the worst possible thing to do to a cat, and should be outlawed... Whew!!! I am so happy we have a mom that thinks that way..:)
Purred by: Amanda C

May 19th 2009 at 11:52 pm

Buy toys and a scratching post, trim the nails, our cats are too busy playing to scratch the furniture. They do have a favourite stair they go for and an arm on a sofa which we keep covered now.
If you dont like the idea of cats scratching areas around the house, the answer is simple.
DONT GET A CAT!
Purred by: Amanda C

May 19th 2009 at 11:54 pm

Buy toys and a scratching post, trim the nails, our cats are too busy playing to scratch the furniture. They do have a favourite stair they go for and an arm on a sofa which we keep covered now.
If you dont like the idea of cats scratching areas around the house, the answer is simple.
DONT GET A CAT!
Purred by: Ridley (Catster Member)

May 20th 2009 at 6:47 am

My two "brothers" and I get our claws clipped every Sunday afternoon. The Food Lady clips, and her husband holds us. We are quietly (mostly) exasperated, but the Food Lady is a timid sort, and she doesn't clip too far down. I don't like it, but I put up with it. It gets easier when you get used to it. She uses a gadget that's like a small scissors with a half-circle hole in one of the blades. We have a scratching post, but we're still not sure about it, although I like to take naps with my face on the carpet base. With our blunt-cut claws, we still take swipes at the side of one chair and the back of the couch, but we don't get much traction. Clipping may not be perfect for us or the humans, but it beats the (shudder) alternative.
Purred by: Rachel

May 20th 2009 at 9:05 am

Cats don't claw furniture with the intent of angering their humans and destroying things. That's how they stretch. Dogs chew and cat's scratch, yet you don't here of anyone removing dog's teeth (which can cause much more sever injuries to humans).

Two other things:
* Declawed cats bite.
* If you want a cat and plan to have it declawed, please adopt an already declawed cat.
Purred by: Rachel

May 20th 2009 at 9:27 am

Cats don't claw furniture with the intent of angering their humans and destroying things. That's how they stretch. Dogs chew and cat's scratch, yet you don't here of anyone removing dog's teeth (which can cause much more sever injuries to humans).

Two other things:
* Declawed cats bite.
* If you want a cat and plan to have it declawed, please adopt an already declawed cat.
Purred by: ♥Oliver Winston Parsons (Catster Member)

May 20th 2009 at 11:48 am

Declawing is such a controversial subject ... it is the feline version of the abortion issue.

Our choice is declaw, but we don't judge anyone for NOT declawing. I wish anti-declaw folks would not judge us.

Here is what I know as a long-time vet tech who has assisted in many declaw surgeries: when a declaw is done by a competent vet who understands anatomy, who takes their time, who provides proper pain management, declawing is no more an issue than a spay. When done on a young cat the pain is minimal (and yes, medical professionals CAN judge if an animal is in pain) . I have had 11 cats over my lifetime....all declawed with NOT ONE COMPLICATION, no one ever required pain meds beyond the initial day, no ever had bleeding beyond the initial surgery, no one ever limped.

I am not trying to talk anyone INTO declawing -- I would just like to see this subject be less controversial. It is not like having your nails RIPPED out. It may be like having them surgically removed while you're under anesthesia....when healed you can live a full & normal life.
Purred by: Dusty ...AKA ...Daisy ...(KA) (Catster Member)

May 20th 2009 at 3:56 pm

My owner had me declawed and I always limp. Sometimes I have to keep one of my feet in the air, so it dosn't hurt. Then my owner gave me to his daughter who has 8 other fur babies and somtimes they pick on me . All I can do is bite to protect myself. They can scratch and bite. However my new owner keeps all the other kitties claws trimed short to prevent bloodshed.
Purred by: kim L

May 20th 2009 at 4:20 pm

We had our oldest male cat declawed along with his canines filed many years ago. He has this obsession with his litterbox and attacks us everytime we clean it. He has been neutered but still has aggression issues. I got a pretty bad infection from his bite years ago and that was our reason for doing it. Even though he is a house cat for life and everything turned out well with his surgery and I think we had a valid reason for doing it , I do regret declawing him and I remember I wanted to call the vet that day and cancel although I didn't.

I think you should always look for alternatives to declawing. I still regret that we did that to him even though it made sense at the time.
Purred by: Kazumi Joy (Catster Member)

May 20th 2009 at 4:40 pm

I think Tasso summed up the bigger issue when they stated, “We do quite a bit, as humans, to make animals fit to our wants…” And that’s exactly the problem because what right do we have to do so? If we want the company of this species, then we need to accept them as they are, and not alter them for our own convenience. Even though we’re obviously on opposite sides in this argument, I also agree with Tasso that there’s no difference between declawing, tail docking, ear cropping or breeding pets with misshapen faces. The difference is that I believe all those things are wrong.

In my opinion, declawing should not be viewed as a personal decision, but as a criminal offence. Canada and the United States in particular need to step up to the plate and make this procedure illegal, as many other nations have already done. We also need to hold vets more accountable, because if they stopped offering this needless surgery (perhaps they should have their license revoked if they do?), then declawing wouldn’t be an option.
Purred by: Krystyna

May 21st 2009 at 7:12 pm

All I know is I have 4 cats and they are all declawed and very happy and healthy. I love them and spoil them to death.When they were declawed (not all at once) they came home after an overnight stay and they were just fine, they had no stitches and just had some kind of glue on their paws. They would run up and down the stairs and even jump a short time after coming home.They didn't appear to be in any distress. I would never have gotten it done if I thought they would be in excruciating pain.I think having a tooth pulled at he dentist is probably worse. It can be painful for up to a week,believe me I know. Sometimes my cats can play rough with each other and I feel reassured that they can't hurt each other or scratch their eyes out. Like the person before said, it's not like you take them and yank their claws out , it's done very humanely with proper anesthetic. My cats are all indoor cats but if they were outside cats I would never get it done. I had an outside cat before and he would go outside and sharpen his nails on a tree. I also had an outside cat that was found dead in my yard and I will never know what happened to him. My cats now don't have their front claws but they will remain safe inside my loving home and hopefully live a long life.
Purred by: emily

May 22nd 2009 at 6:46 pm

i never had a second thought about declawing until i worked at a vet clinic. i've never had any of my cats declawed and thank goodness! it is HORRIBLE to witness the pain those cats suffer for days and sometimes weeks after! it isnt LIKE cutting off the first digit of your fingers...it IS that. and the way that some vets do it is by just using those rounded nail clippers like you would generally use for a dog! ...and on top of that, they can sometimes even grow back!
....and as for letting your cat outside once they are declawed....DEFINETLY not a good idea. you may think that they're fine but how many times have you seen them come back with cuts or bite wounds from getting into a fight they probably couldnt defend themselves in. what about that time your cat just might never come back because maybe a dog or something attacked them and they couldnt climb anything to get away because they didnt have those claws???
there are alternatives: soft paws, trimming claws, covering furniture, correcting inappropriate behaviors, or just put the cat outside. you know what you were getting in to when you got a cat so owners should research, ask questions, and make a decision that lies in the best interest of the CAT...not your furniture.
Purred by: Denise L

May 23rd 2009 at 5:28 pm

"I think Tasso summed up the bigger issue when they stated, “We do quite a bit, as humans, to make animals fit to our wants…” And that’s exactly the problem because what right do we have to do so? If we want the company of this species, then we need to accept them as they are, and not alter them for our own convenience. Even though we’re obviously on opposite sides in this argument, I also agree with Tasso that there’s no difference between declawing, tail docking, ear cropping or breeding pets with misshapen faces. The difference is that I believe all those things are wrong. "


I completely agree with this. I get tired of humans thinking we are the superior species and have the right to wipe out entire animal populations, kill them when they interfere with our lives too much, and surgically alter them to suit our convenience (not theirs). It's their world and their lives, too--we aren't supreme beings.
Purred by: eleniki

June 5th 2009 at 9:19 am

Butchery. Why would you take a cat into your home and then inflict torture on it? The profound ignorance and insensitivity of people who do this never ceases to amaze me.
Purred by: Smokey (Catster Member)

June 8th 2009 at 12:08 pm

I speak for clementine and myself- ITS ABSOLUTLY HIDEOUS! why dont you all rip out your fingernails, or toe nails? HOW does that feel? i am sooooo deeply glad that we dodnt get declawed
Purred by: Ashley (Catster Member)

June 11th 2009 at 1:21 pm

I would say that if a cat is aggressive toward humans and other pets, at least their front paws should be declawed. All cats who have a medical need to be declawed need to be declawed. For less aggressive cats, declawing is wrong. Nail caps are good enough for furniture shredders.
Purred by: Glynda C

June 23rd 2009 at 7:39 am

My daughter had a beautiful little cat, who was born with multiple birth defects, and after she got to be about 5, she wouldn't take care of her claws. They got to the point where they were growing into her pads, and Precious couldn't walk! Vicky had no choice but to de-claw...and, wonder of wonders, Vicky's vet removed ONLY the nails, NOT the ends of the toe or the "thumbs". Unless you tried to extend the kitty's claws, you COULD NOT TELL that she was de-clawed! Her paws looked completely normal ! This tells me that the only reason Vets remove the ends of the toes and the "thumbs" is either laziness or ignorance! Any comments from vets out there?
Purred by: Barley (Catster Member)

July 5th 2009 at 8:52 pm

a few people mentioned tail docking being wrong- I promise they don't feel it. I've watched my mom do it before. they do it when theyre two days old and dont feel it. but this is wrong.
Purred by: Amber (Catster Member)

July 13th 2009 at 9:05 am

... of course those against declawing aren't judged for NOT electing to subject an animal to a surgical procedure purely for thier own convenience. Fact is, there really isn't a leg for anyone to stand on to judge us.

I'm sorry if those that declaw feel like they are getting venom hissed their way but honestly, what do you expect? You are mutilating an animal for your own convenience.

I get scratched and so does the furniture (sometimes). I accepted that as a possibility before I got a cat. If declawing was illegal, there wouldn't be an issue about "you can only keep the cat if you get it declawed," people would have to accept all the implications of owning a LIVING, BREATHING ANIMAL. They are not toys and we don't have the right to surgically alter them for our own convenience. It will be made illegal eventually so you better get used to the idea.

Also, saying declawing is just like spay/neutering is completely ridiculous. Unspayed/neutered animals are subject to all sorts of HEALTH ISSUES including cancer, on top of population issues. Apples and oranges my friend.

My aunt had a beautiful DLH/Siamese kitty. He got outside after being declawed and was killed by a dog because he couldn't defend himself.

Letting cats outside is cruel, eh? Tell me that after you have been shut up in your room for a few weeks and not allowed to leave. I have a former feral and keeping her in the house 24/7, now that is cruel my friend. She goes absolutely nuts, so I let her out during daylight hours.
Purred by: Kiki BB (Catster Member)

July 29th 2009 at 11:52 am

Mom doesn't believe in declawing but she can see the necessity for it in extreme cases. She has bought me claw caps but hasn't put them on me yet. Since she got me the scratch tree I have not been scratching the furniture but I still scratch her...
Purred by: Silver Emrys Stoutmeyer (Catster Member)

July 30th 2009 at 1:51 am

I HAVE A FLAME TIP SIAMESE I KNOW OF AND HIS FRIEND LITTLE MISS, THEY WERE OFFICE CATS AND THEY WERE HURTING EACH OTHER, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY CASE.
Purred by: Jennifer M

August 11th 2009 at 9:44 am

a friend of mine recently had her kitten declawed. i was shocked that some one could do that to a cat. but the cat was up and playing again the next day because there is a new more expensive way that does not chop off the cts toes!! it great!! it is much more nice to the cat and the cat does not have to deal with nearly as much pain for long!!!!! if i had to declaw my cat i would spend the extra money so that my cat was more comfortable. as to the old way of declawing.....HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! E.V.I.L. at its meanest!!!
Purred by: Ash (Catster Member)

August 26th 2009 at 9:13 am

You guys will probably hate me for this, but I have a cat I had to get declawed. And I will defend doing it in this case. Ever since he was a kitten, he never retracted his claws. Since he wasn't the brightest cat, he would often get himself stuck on stuff. I would sometimes find him stuck on the carpet flailing around and I'd have to pin him down and unhook him. Also, often when he would jump off the couch, his back legs would get stuck and he'd fall face first to the floor and start flailing around. I was very concerned he would end up breaking a leg. When he was about 2 or 3, I had to get all of his claws removed. He didn't seem to mind too much, and never got stuck on anything again! In his case, I think it was the right decision. Its much better than him breaking a leg.
Purred by: Kitti S

August 31st 2009 at 9:22 am

Personally I don't like the idea of declawing a cat at all. In the event that a cat is attacked by another animal... aside from teeth, claws are the only weapon of defence a cat has. To take that away is just cruel. I know some landlords don't allow cats unless they are declawed. A friend of mine recently had her cat declawed for that reason. My friend had to relocate for her job, and her choices for apartments were very slim and everyplace seemed to have the same requirements... It is sad that there seemed to be no other option in the matter. She had to live somewhere. Her cat is a rescue kitty who survived streets and attatched to my friend in spite of violent behavior toward anyone else... She honestly felt she had no other option. In light of the situation her little kitty seems to have recovered just fine and still loves her mommy. I'm just thankful that I'm not in a position where there's any "requirements" of such things. My little furry ones are happily clawing up whatever they feel the need to. :-P
Purred by: Marni-Jo M

September 27th 2009 at 7:06 am

I wish there are another way for cats not to destroy the house so the parents can take fur kids home without worrying destroying the house. I am against the idea of declawing big time. Unfortunately, i have notice that lots of cats have returned to the cat shelters because they have claws and the parents don't want to deal wtih cats who destroy their homes. =( we need to find a way to make cats not to destroy the home. I have three cats with their beautiful claws and they are wonderful cats. They only ruin some of those stuffs at home but i bought lots of cat stuffs to keep them busy than ruining the house. =( i even dont care about the holes or srcatching in the house. fur kids are our babies as well as our little human babies.
Purred by: Jo Singer

November 20th 2009 at 3:50 pm

Declawing is totally inhumane. Already over 37 countries around the world have banned the practice. Cats can be trained to use scratching posts if they are covered in a rough texture and are at least 3 feet tall. Cats need to be able to stretch out their bodies. Also trimming cats' claws is a simple procedure. Vets can teach people how to trim the nails. Our cats love to get their nails trimmed, in fact. They don't like getting "caught" on things either.

Our furniture is pristine. If I get an accidental scratch it is because I was tardy in trimming. A cat bite is far more dangerous. Declawed cats frequently resort to biting and become aggressivve. I am thrilled about the California cities that have instituted bans already.
Purred by: Chloe (Catster Member)

December 1st 2009 at 10:04 am

Declawing can cause cats to become lame and in the worst cases it can cause them to lose the use of their paw or paws!!!

all together! It's a crappy thing to do to any animal. There are other alternatives out there that pet owners should consider. You can by caps to put on their claws that you can replace as needed. There are scratching posts and other scratching aids that you can put on doors and furniture as well.

No cat deserves to go through that kind of pain and trauma over a sofa or a chair!!!!
Purred by: Smokey (Catster Member)

March 30th 2010 at 5:01 pm

I cut my cats claws she sits in my lap like a baby and i cut each of them with her nail clipper...lol...we have been doing it with her since she was a baby.
Purred by: Pooka (Catster Member)

July 8th 2010 at 11:45 am

I would never declaw my cat. She would be mad as a hornet if we did. I really think she would never get close to us again.
Purred by: Katherine L

March 12th 2011 at 5:01 pm

I wasn't against it entirely until several years ago when I did thorough book research on it, and decided I would never do it. Although, I'm not going to judge people in certain situations...because let's face it: If you got kicked out of your home, and had to rent at an apartment that won't accept pets, you may be terrified enough to get them declawed because it's the only way they can stay and not be euthanized at a shelter. Also for many people looking for indoor cats, though it's horrible and sad, would prefer an already declawed cat, realistically making them more adoptable and less likely to be killed. I'd rather be declawed than dead, personally, but would never encourage or condone it. It's always going to be a controversial concept to me. I don't believe pain killers after a surgery to remove part of someone's fingernails and knuckles really does anyone justice. Plus with surgery and anesthesia there is always risk to their health. Could anyone forgive themselves if their paws don't heal properly, become infected, or changes the cat's behavior to more timid or aggressive and it starts biting? Would you risk letting your cat out to get into a fight or attacked by another animal/person and be defenseless except back claws (unless it's 4-paw declawing) or teeth? What if the cat gets out and gets lost? I'd think you'd lose more sleep than normal knowing it can't even defend itself properly....still, like I said, personally I think it ultimately depends on the situation.
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