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Food & Nutrition > Addiction Canned and Evangers
Zora

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Purred: Sun Jul 10, '11 12:56pm PST 
This is the response I got from Addiction when I asked about it.
Hi Sandy-

Thanks for contacting us. It is true that our foods are manufactured at the Evanger's facility, however we oversee that process and provide our own ingredients and formulations. The complaints regarding Evangers from the FDA do not affect our food manufacturing process. We are very particular about what goes into our food and purchase all of our own ingredients for our foods, so I can assure you that the FDA claims will not affect how our foods are made. We are a small, international company founded by a holistic vet. We work hard to formulate our foods and are very particular about the processing our foods go to. We send representatives from Addiction to our manufacturers to ensure that they are complying with our specific directions for all of our canned foods.

I hope this helps. I know how hard it is to find companies that you feel comfortable with. I can also assure you that we are in no danger of selling out to any large conglomerates. Please let me know if you need anything else and thank you for your feedback.

While I want to believe Addiction...and I do think they make a good food...it seems the folks at Evangers are kind of shady.

http://www.truthaboutpetfood.com/articles/the-charges-agai nst-evangers-pet-food-.html

And these are some of Evangers other documented issues going back to 2008.
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2009/06/fda_evangers.ht ml
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Food & Nutrition > Addiction Canned and Evangers
Zora

I want it now.
 
 
Purred: Fri Jul 8, '11 9:32am PST 
I just read on itchmo that Addiction canned is being made by Evangers which gives me pause in light of their FDA warnings.

http://itchmoforums.com/cat-food-experiences-by-brand/addiction- cat-food-t1268.30.html

My cats LOVE this food and are doing really well on it. They also eat Nature's Instinct Duck and Rabbit (even though I know the rabbit is sourced from China). But now, in light of this...I need some viable canned alternatives. They've tried wellness and it didn't agree with one of them. One of them can't tolerate venison. They don't eat chicken. I've tried raw with them and that's a no go. So I would like some alternate thoughts on canned that might offer novel proteins. Or thoughts on Evangers now canning Addiction. YIKES.
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Food & Nutrition > Allergies, Orijen and a Quest for the right food

Zora

I want it now.
 
 
Purred: Tue Oct 5, '10 7:22am PST 
Thanks for the input.

We did try the whole novel protein source. With duck. All duck soft. And Frohmm Duck, which has rice. Zora wouldn't eat the dry Green Pea and Duck. And neither would my other two who are on an elimination diet by association. And, unfortunately, it didn't eliminate the issue.

So while we're working on this ... my main concern right now is the amount of fish in the orijen and the possibilities of crystals.
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Food & Nutrition > Allergies, Orijen and a Quest for the right food

Zora

I want it now.
 
 
Purred: Mon Oct 4, '10 11:47am PST 
First, we know everyone has a lot of opinions about raw versus wet versus dry. Mom's done all the research and has tried to switch us to an all wet diet, but my sister refused to eat it. And mom's interested in raw, but there are other issues we need to address first.

See. I might have food allergies. Or I might just be neurotic (I was trapped in a flooded house as a kitten). I like to lick the hair off on the bottom part of my belly. It could be because I can't totally reach my bum to clean myself (which mom is nice enough to do with a wet paper towel for me everyday). Sometimes I lick the hair off my paw, too. But then sometimes it starts to grow back.

Or I might be allergic to something else. But for now, we're trying an elimination diet.

Wet foods we eat:

Wellness Chicken/Wellness Turkey
Nature's Variety Instinct Duck/Rabbit
Natural Balance Green Pea and Duck
Natural Balance Green Pea and Chicken
Natural Balance Chicken and Liver Paté

Dry food (We know...we know...but we're on minimal rations of this)
California Natural Chicken & Brown Rice (yes. we know they've been purchased by P&G which is another reason mom would like us off it)

Originally, mom tried to remove all foods that contain fish. Hair started to grow back...but now I'm licking again and scratching at my ears which is something new.

So now we're going to remove the California Natural because the brown rice has been the one thing that's been consistent in all of this. The lady at the healthy pet store talked mom into orijen. She also gave us a sample of prowl. Because we know these elimination diets take a long time, mom's concerned about feeding us the orijen (even though it's chicken, it still has a lot of fish) for the 8-12 weeks it's going to take to determine if the rice was the issue. She's especially worried for my brother eating that much fish and maybe getting crystals. We're trying to eliminate just one thing at a time to determine what might be doing this...but mom still wants to make sure she's not causing another problem by treating another.

A couple other things. Feeding in separate rooms isn't an option for the 3 of us. We just holler at the door and don't eat the food mom's put in there for us. And the limited ingredient diet stuff (dry)blech. We won't eat it. And we don't like the Instinct Chicken dry. (not sure about the duck or rabbit)

Thoughts about the fish level in orijen? Is there anything else that's grain free (brown rice free, that is) that mom could rotate in to dial down the fish level? Thoughts/experiences with prowl?

Once we get through this...mom will probably have a lot of questions about raw...but as you might imagine, she wants to get to the root of this first.

Thanks everyone!



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Saying Goodbye: Memorials & Support > In loving memory of Baron

Baron (RIP- 4/24/10)

Look deep into- my eyes.
 
 
Purred: Sun Jun 6, '10 6:18am PST 
It's been a little over a month since we lost our beloved Baron. He was one of the sweetest, funniest little cats I've ever met. He was always quick to greet me in the morning or when I came home with a scratch on his scratching post (all the while looking at me for approval). Every morning, he would come in the bathroom and reach up to try to touch my face, and when I emerged from the shower, he was always sitting on top of his scratching post just waiting for attention.

He lived a good life with his litter mate brother (Tyler), and his two adopted sisters (Rogue and Zora). Zora loved both the boys so much, she became their adopted mother.

Unfortunately, Baron was born with a bad heart. We always knew he wouldn't be with us forever, but at only 4, we were extremely saddened to lose him. He died of a massive heart attack (we believe he was in the middle of running around chasing his brother) on April 24, but he will forever be in our hearts.

kitty
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Food & Nutrition > Natura Pet Foods - Long Post (sorry)
Zora

I want it now.
 
 
Purred: Sat May 29, '10 6:11pm PST 
Yes, Oreo. For now, we'll stick with the wellness canned.

We're more concerned about this buyout by P&G of Natura products. I've been trying like mad to switch the kitties to an all wet diet with no avail. Their crunchy food is limited, however. I also have a cat that suffers from food allergies so we have to be careful what we feed her. Right now, she's been chomping a spot on her leg and we're cutting out the California Natural wet to see if that's what's causing it. Once we determine which food is driving her crazy, we'll have to try her on another crunchy (in limited amounts) and maybe try some other wet foods with limited ingredients. But we have to wait until we figure out what this allergic reaction is before we make any changes.
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Food & Nutrition > Natura Pet Foods - Long Post (sorry)

Zora

I want it now.
 
 
Purred: Wed May 19, '10 7:06pm PST 
Thanks BK and Bumpurr. Been looking at Blue Buffalo, too. I think the Wilderness stuff is newer. I remember when the Blue Spa came out. But will look further into the Wilderness ingredients.
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Food & Nutrition > Natura Pet Foods - Long Post (sorry)

Zora

I want it now.
 
 
Purred: Wed May 19, '10 10:55am PST 
We're a little behind the times (we've been too busy chasing our laser toy), but we just learned Natura (California Natural, Innova, Evo) has been purchased by P&G. We believe the sale goes through in early June. Personally (and it's just our opinion), we're not fans of P&G or Mars produced pet foods. Now, we know that's not a guarantee that Natura formulations will change especially in the short term, but we want to be proactive and start looking for new foods. While some may disagree with the foods currently being served in the house, it's been working so far.

Currently the regimen is (the wet foods are rotated):
California Natural Chicken and Brown Rice Dry (in limited amounts)
Evo (dry) in limited amounts
California Natural (wet)
Natural Balance Chicken and Liver (wet)
Natural Balance Ultra (wet)
Wellness Chicken (wet)
Wellness Turkey (wet)

On the wet side:

We've been thinking of eliminating the Natural Balance foods because we've learned they're high in carbohydrates. We've tried EVO canned, but as cats, for some reason we're not fans. But now mom is worried about keeping us on the California Natural wet food in light of this new transition.

Wellness, we're a tad concerned about because they are owned by a corporation that owns Elmer's glue.

Other wets we've tried, but have ruled out:
Merrick (YUK)
Weruva (YUK and too many fish-based foods)
EVO

Dry foods we've tried:
Frohmm (we like the small pieces, but I've got an allergy to something...I think it's the alfalfa)
Beyond Grain (again ... alfalfa). Plus we know this has to be supplemented with something else.

We haven't tried orijen but it seems like there's a lot of fish in there, which isn't good for my brother. Taste of the Wild also seems to have a fish base.

So we're at a loss and need some help/advice. Mom's not against feeding raw, but needs to do more research about it. She's concerned of what to do if we won't go there. And she's a little concerned about making sure we get the proper nutrients. And about salmonella, etc.

For now, our questions would be:

Wet foods. What are some good ones other than the ones we've already turned our noses up at?

Dry foods. Without getting into the whole dry versus wet versus raw debate what are some high end dry foods (we know...for some of you that's an oxymoron) that mom could research instead of the ones listed above?

Another option we might try is to talk with someone our vet recommended who is a pet nutrition specialist.

So that's our story. Any thoughts?
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Cat Health > cat with horner's and nystagmus

Zora

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Purred: Thu Jul 30, '09 1:12pm PST 
Thanks everyone for the responses. Sorry I've been delayed in getting back. After a night and 1/2 a day in the hospital on fluids, the nystagmus has resolved. The Horner's, however, is still there. Vet thinks it should resolve, but she's not 100% sure. They said that sometimes it can even happen from the anesthesia. Other than the fact that she looks funky, all is well, she's starting to eat on her own and yesterday, chased her brothers. YAY!
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Food & Nutrition > getting her to eat more
Zora

I want it now.
 
 
Purred: Sat Jul 25, '09 11:44am PST 
Thanks for all your responses. I might try some of the tiki cat to see how she does with that. I really don't like feeding them a lot of fish foods, but if it will get her to eat, I'll try anything. Weruva isn't her regular food, but it wasn't a pate, like the wellness which she was having difficulty eating, so I thought I'd try it. She liked it, but now she's bored with it.

Yes, you're right. I'm worried she'll get hooked on the a/d and not to be a snob, but I'm not a fan of the hills products, but we'll talk to the vet on Tuesday for sure about that.

Like I said, she's coming around and starting to act more normal, but it's the amount she's eating I'm worried about. Supplementing with the Nutrical probably helps a bit, but that's not a long term solution, either.

Thanks again everyone for all your help!
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