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Harvey

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Purred: Thu Aug 28, '08 6:03am PST 
At least some of you who don't cringe and avert their eyes automatically when they see my posts must be aware that I am currently taking care of an orange tabby kitten who was rescued from a cat hoarder. The foster Mom wasn't entirely up front about his health condition when I went to meet and greet--she said he had had calicivirus, but that he had gotten over it, aside from tearing in one eye, probably caused by a damaged tear duct. But when she brought him to my place, the diagnosis was herpes--which is both worse and better than calicivirus (as I understand it, a cat can get sicker from calicivirus, but stands a better chance of getting rid of it for good than with herpes, which almost always stays in the cat's system). Also, he seems to have overly red gums that may be related to the herpes infection; we're going to the dentist tomorrow to get him checked out. I am leery of taking on a cat with severe gingivitis, because it is so difficult to treat, and the cat suffers so much. So, while waiting for the test results to come in, I've been trying not to fall in love with him, just in case I have to give him back...but he's fallen in love with me.

I've never had a cat this affectionate. I mean, basically he grew up outside the house of the cat hoarder, which would make him feral, more or less, but I've never met such a sweet, intelligent, well-mannered boy. Here are his good points:
-- He establishes long and meaningful eye contact.
-- He jumps onto my lap and goes to sleep.
-- He talks to me.
-- He loves toys, any toy. He loves food, any food. Quite different from my fussy Maine Coons.
-- He has a purr that can be heard across the room. My mere presence is enough to start up the purr.
-- He rolls over and lets me rub his belly.
-- When he's feeling REALLY affectionate, he flings himself at my chest.
-- He sleeps on my feet when I'm on the computer.
-- He has impeccable toilet habits; buries his little doo-doos with the precision of an engineer.
-- He kneads while lying on my lap purring! I've never had a cat that did that before!
-- He's beautiful--even though his eyes are slightly damaged by the herpes infection, he is a striking cat: almond eyes, enormous ears, a prominent muzzle, pink nose and pink paw pads; he's an orange tabby, but unusual in that his body has the "ticked tabby" pattern of an Abyssinian, but he has tabby stripes on his legs, tummy, and tail. His body shape is long and lean, what I believe is called "Oriental." Who knows what he has in his genetic mix.
-- He like to help me type--or rather, mistype.
-- He taught himself to fetch (Harvey and Leila never mastered this skill).
-- So far, he hasn't chewed/scratched anything he shouldn't, or had any toilet accidents.
-- It would appear that as far as he's concerned, I'm the center of his life.

So, does this sound like the ideal cat, or what? He's so cheerful, so full of life...

What's the problem, then? Well, I'm afraid that he might pass herpes along to the other cats. However, as a vet opined, over 70% of cats have been exposed to herpes anyway, and Chibi had a URI in March, AND everyone's up to date on their shots, so...

Other than that, I'm worried about his gums, as written above.

He has yet to meet the other cats because he's being kept in quarantine until he stops sneezing. I have a feeling that the girls will enjoy having a new playmate, Spot will feel hurt that I've brought yet ANOTHER cat into the household, and Harvey, who still hasn't gotten over his animosity toward his little sister Chibi, will probably bully him as well.

So--IS this an exceptionally affectionate cat, or have I just had dud cats up until now? Also, will a kitten this affectionate grow up to be as affectionate as he is now? My experience with cats has always been that standoffish kittens will suddenly become much friendlier at about the age of two; perhaps that's when they feel their own mortality weighing on them, or when they actually put two and two together and figure out that they had better be nice to the Human who feeds them. So, I assume he'll get more, rather than less, affectionate as time goes on.

Anyway, let's have a show of hands and vote. Should I keep him?
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♥- Suey- ♥

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Purred: Thu Aug 28, '08 6:41am PST 
Oooohhh Harvey, he sounds divine.

You know, when you first talked about him and he sounded like a ticking viral bomb, I would have said no. However, now I'm leaning towards yes. I'd say it's pretty likely that the MC's have been exposed to herpes at the cat shows. If Chibi's URI was herpes, it makes it a bigger yes for me. Is it possible to find out now if Chibi is carrying herpes? I'm not sure how it works exactly.

I think Harvey's history with gingivitis makes you better equipped to help him than a person who has had no experience with it. My main thing in regards to that would be financial. If you are able to provide the health care and attention that he would require if it is gingivitis, then I think it becomes less of an issue. If he does have it, he is still going to have it whether you adopt him, or someone else does.

Is your home big enough for 5 cats if there are personality clashes? I am really fighting myself at the moment, because I would love to move Evie in forever. Unfortunately, Fui and Suey hate her, and the only way to make it work is to have them sequestered from each other. It's no way for her to live long term, being cooped up. It's hard to say really before they are introduced, I guess.

I'm not really offering any real help here at all! I am leaning towards yes. However, I would wait for the all-clear and see how the introductions go before deciding for sure. It would be awful if you ended up with one of the worst-case scenarios that you see on the forums sometimes after you had made the commitment.
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Harvey

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Purred: Thu Aug 28, '08 7:20am PST 
Good advice, Suey, as usual. I'm thinking of asking the foster Mom to extend the trial period at least another week, since the kitten was still sneezing when he came here, even though she said he was over his URI, so he has yet to meet The Gang. Generally speaking, they are tolerant of other cats, and the kitten LOVES other kitties, so I'm assuming that they'll get used to each other. As for whether my apartment is big enough for 5 cats--it's the same size as my breeder's apartment, and he has anywhere from 7 to 20 cats at any one time, depending on how many kittens he has hanging around. Generally speaking, his cats all get along (could be the mellow Maine Coon blood), although sometimes the girls will get into tiffs with each other when their hormones are acting up...you know.

Actually, there is a test for both herpes and calicivirus, and my new vet did it for the kitten (the results aren't in yet). I could have it done for Leila and Chibi, too, but the results take over a week to arrive...But this is really some information I should have.

On the other hand, I am a total hypochondriac, and even the vet keeps telling me to chill out. Good thing I never had human children!
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Sherlock

Me, Me, Me, Me
 
 
Purred: Thu Aug 28, '08 7:44am PST 
Ooh, Harvey-Meowmy wants him!! Not that she would be allowed to have him...he doesn't sound feral at all. Some of our barn cats are, and they are nothing like that. He has been handled since birth, probably. If everthing checks out and as was said before, you can handle the expense of his dental-I say GO FOR IT! I think you may have already decided anyways. wink
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Tambolina

No...the magic- is still- here...!!!
 
 
Purred: Thu Aug 28, '08 10:40am PST 
Don't know......!!!! But be sensible....do what would be good for you and yours...especially Lola.......

My heart says 'Have him....have him' he is needy and loving........have him.........but I don't know........

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kaya skye

not fighting my- demons-we joined- forces
 
 
Purred: Thu Aug 28, '08 11:23am PST 
@tambolina-lola? i think you mean leila...i thought for a moment that harvey's mom was living with 6 cats, and she had achieved official CCL (crazy cat lady) status.

@harvey-i'm with everyone else. herpes is sooo common i'd be shocked if the mc crew (and by extension, spot) hadn't been exposed to it. and spot was probably exposed as a kitten. herpes positive kitties are prone to URIs, and you should take care not to expose him to big bad diseases because for awhile his immune system isn't going to be up to snuff. but honestly-except for never really going away, herpes isn't all that serious. the gingivitis...well, at least you now know what vets to go to if he DOES have it...if you can afford it, you're probably better suited (as suey said) to handle it than most. (suited as suey said-say that 3 times fast!)

yes, you are a hypochondriac by proxy. your vet knows you well-gee, that sounds odd. a lot of kittens are simply born with herpes. since in most cases it's just another "kitty cold" kind of thing unless it's neglected and the cat has poor care...i think you should, well...BREATHE..laugh out loud
i can't tell you what to do...but i think you know what you want to do, and are just dithering because of might-bes and the possibilities of...oh, ocd is wonderfulhappy dance
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Boris

I'm cute and I- know how to use- that :)
 
 
Purred: Thu Aug 28, '08 4:15pm PST 
Congratulation, you've adopted Japanese Boris, aka lovable orange mutt. Or at least a cat that is so much like Boris was as a kitten (except for the lap sitting and the aby pattern, that is). It sounds like the two of you are bonding, and as the deadline looms this makes you more and more torn. I doubt that another week will make you less torn, rather more so.

I'm with Suey: as long as you can afford it, I'd keep him, and pledge not to get anymore. Sure, Spot will be upset, and Harvey will be resentful, and the girls will want to treat him like their own special kitten, but they'll all get adjusted eventually. Also, not all kittens with bad gums grow up to be adults with bad gums: since you already know the importance of prevention, you might actually be more likely to take care of his problem properly (forgive me if it sounds like I am repeating Suey's advice, but it was right on the mark).

You know what else? We sort of figured around here you'd keep him. Mom says she knows what it's like to look into our big eyes and hear us purr and be loving, and darn it, there kick in the maternal instincts. She says you've been pretty valiant by waiting so long before admitting that you're growing attached to the little fella.

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Harvey

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Purred: Thu Aug 28, '08 10:11pm PST 
Well, the good news is that he's tested negative for both herpes and calicivirus, and the Cat Dentist is pretty sure that his gum problems are just what the foster Mom said, his gums reacting to the adult teeth that are just now coming out. So, he's now free to do the meet and greet thing with the Fearsome Four. The only one who is likely to cause any problems is Harvey, who still hisses at and punches Chibi when he's in a bad mood. Harvey does not see the charm in kittens. Spot will be happy as long as he's not ignored by me, and the girls will enjoy playing with him.

The dentist estimates the Orange Boy to be around 5 months old, and both she and the foster Mom predict that he'll get pretty big for a Japanese cat. Now, Spot is a BIIIIIG Japanese cat--even if he were slender, he'd be around 14 pounds, but right now he's still a watermelon and weighs around 20 pounds. Little Orange Boy has a very long torso, which could mean that he's got Oriental blood of some sort (Japanese DSHs have semi-cobby bodies, as do American ones). In any event, I look forward to seeing him grow into his length and paw size and become a big, slobbery lovey boy.

Boris--I'm afraid I can't promise I won't get any more cats. The breeders I hang around with usually have around 8 permanent cats, and then the number goes up when there are kittens around. My own breeder lives in an apartment the same size as mine, and he has had between 15-20 cats in there when two of his queens have had overlapping litters. It works, as long as you are extremely fastidious about cleaning the toilets, and act immediately if you catch any signs of diseases that cats in multi-cat households tend to get. As a frustrated wannabe doctor and hypochondriac, one of my hobbies is going to hospitals to get various tests, and believe me, my cats are going to get the best medical care I can provide.
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rhymon- pearle- hedges-come- home

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Purred: Thu Aug 28, '08 10:50pm PST 
glad you gave-uh, glad you made the right choicebig grinmy walk on the feral side isn't turning out as well...barring a miracle, we're not going to be able to keep simon...but we'll make sure he goes somewhere he'll be appreciated. or i'll hunt them down andnaughty
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♥- Suey- ♥

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Purred: Thu Aug 28, '08 11:05pm PST 
That's fantastic news about the negative tests and probably not diagnosis for his gums!!

Let us know how the meet and greet gets on!

I feel bad, but I can't help but snigger when you mention Harvey 'punching' Leila. Fui does it to Suey sometimes, and she gives him the filthiest stinkeye back. It cracks me up!
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