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4 month old extremely horny kitty

Got a new, young, furry love in your life? This is the place for you to ask all of your questions - big or small! Just remember that you are receiving advice from other cat owners and lovers... not professionals. If you have a major problem, always seek the advice of a vet or behaviorist! Most important is to remember to have fun with your new fur baby.

  
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Prince

Prince of the- Ethelburga- Palace
 
 
Purred: Mon Jul 25, '11 1:31pm PST 
So Prince has changed a lot in the last couple of weeks... Please do not read this if you are prudish.. He is constantly doing things to a snake toy I got him and sitting there 'cleaning' certain areas after. I try not to look but he does it in full view of me. I received the newsletter about a kitten reaching sexual maturity and he seems to have all the symptoms e.g. escaping through every route possible, humping, weeing in places (but not spraying from what I can tell so far). However he is only 4 months and one week old... is this too soon for him to get the snip? I want him to be a healthy boy but he is biting and scratching so much more aggressively now, especially when he is trying to hump my arm . I desperately want him to be healthy but it is getting a bit out of hand now... advice please!
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Nellie

cause thats what- i am a princess
 
 
Purred: Mon Jul 25, '11 4:12pm PST 
Overview:

Even today, with worldwide resources at our fingertips, there are still pet owners who believe various tales about reasons for not desexing their cat.

Much of what is said comes down to just a lack of understanding which is commonly caused by old wives tails which refuse to go away. Some of the common reasons people don't desex their cat include;

•Desexing will change her personality.
•It is better to have a litter of kittens before desexing her.
•I want for my children to see the miracle of birth.
•I can't afford to have my cat desexed.


Desexing will change her personality:

Desexing can change a cat's personality, but it's usually for the better. Because the cats don't have sex on their minds all the time, more often than not, they will become more affectionate towards their owners.

People have suggested that cats can put on weight after they've been desexed. Personally, I haven't experienced this problem with any cat I've had desexed. An entire cat will spend time prowling the streets looking for a mate. Once desexed, the urge to wander isn't as extreme, and therefore they will spend more time at home. If you notice your cat is putting on weight after desexing, just increase the cat's level of activity by playing games with the cat. Never put your cat on a diet without veterinary supervision.

A queen who is calling constantly can lose weight. Some queens lose their appetite when they are in heat, they have other things on their mind.

Entire males (and females) are likely to spray. Cat spray is extremely pungent. Most cat breeders keep their stud cats in a separate cat enclosure because of this problem with spraying. Generally females don't spray, but it's not unheard of. It's more likely to happen in entire females.

Entire cats are going to be looking for a mate. This means they endanger their lives wandering around the neighbourhood looking for a partner. They are at greater risk of car accidents, dog attacks, getting lost or even being abused by cruel people.

Entire queens come into heat every few weeks. When they are in heat they frequently call, night & day. We once had a neighbour who let their entire Burmese female wander the neighbourhood calling, it drove the locals crazy. Trying to sleep with a cat howling outside your window isn't much fun. It's also very thoughtless of people who allow their cats to disturb the peace of other residents. Incidentally, this Burmese was hit & killed by a car before her third birthday, her daughter was also killed by a car at 2 years old.

Health benefits to desexing your queen:

An entire female is at risk of developing the following conditions;

•Mammary Cancer. The third most common tumour found in cats. Extremely low chance of developing this if the cat has been spayed prior to her first heat.
•Pyometra. This is an infection of the uterus. At best, if caught early it can be treated. At worst, it can lead to death.
•Tumours of the uterus & ovaries.
•Stress caused by constant calling can weaken the cat's immune system.




Males are also at risk:

Testosterone is known to weaken a male's immune system. Desexing your tom cat will reduce the level of testosterone in his system, thus strengthening his immune system.

He will be less territorial, and therefore not get into as many fights with other cats in the area. Less risk of injury.

Entire males are at risk of developing testicular cancer

Both males & females permitted to breed at random are also at risk of contracting FIV or FeLV. Both are caused by viruses, and once caught are fatal.

I want my children to see the miracle of birth:

If you want to show your kids the miracle of birth I'd suggest renting a nature video instead. You will see lots of animals giving birth. Bringing yet another litter of kittens into the world just because you want to show your children is not a valid excuse. Are you prepared for the unexpected? What if the queen gives birth to dead kittens, or deformed ones? How will your kids feel if the kittens fail to thrive after the first few days. Are you prepared to show them the miracle of death also?

I can't afford to desex my cat:

Desexing is a relatively cheap operation, and if money is an issue are you prepared for the unexpected? what would happen if the cat needed expensive veterinary care after a car accident or being attacked by another cat? Pet ownership is a responsibility, and every person considering getting a pet should be fully aware of the costs, and demands before making a decision. Cats can live for up to 20 years, and can cost quite a sum of money. The cost of desexing your cat is a mere drop in the ocean compared to the potential costs if you keep the cat entire. For example:

If the queen has problems giving birth, she may need an emergency caesarean.

The queen can develop mastitis, again requiring veterinary care. If your queen develops mastitis, it may fall upon you to hand feed the kittens, every 2-4 hours (day & night). After they have been fed, you will need to stimulate them to go to the loo.

As stated above, there are several health risks associated with keeping an entire cat. All of which can be costly to have treated.

There is also the moral debate. Every year, millions of cats are euthanised because there just aren't enough homes for them. There are shelters all over the world full of cats who desperately need a good home & somebody to love them. Each pet owner should consider this before adding to the overpopulation of cats by breeding their own cat.

If you are serious about becoming a breeder, you should buy the best purebred cat money can buy, and register yourself with one of the many cat clubs. Before breeding your first litter, you should spend several months or even years researching the ins & outs of feline husbandry, genetics, disease & breeding. You will also need to know if your breed of choice is prone to any health/genetic defects. If so, can they be tested for? Arm yourself with as much knowledge as you possibly can. There is far more to breeding than putting a male & a female together & waiting 63 days.

Both male & female can be desexed from approximately 10 weeks of age. For more information on early desexing check out the following article.
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Nerys

I'm a princess- and I know it.
 
 
Purred: Mon Jul 25, '11 9:47pm PST 
We've been dealing a lot with the question of "when is it safe to fix a kitty" lately, and here's the near-universal answer we've been getting:

If you have the luxury of waiting until 6 months, that's the age most vets recommend. However, cats can definitely reach sexual maturity earlier than 6 months, and it is technically safe to spay/neuter a kitten as young as 2 months (provided that they weigh at least 2 pounds).

Two months is a bit extreme (it's usually only done THAT early under special circumstances, like shelters who have to adopt out kittens without a guarantee that the new owners will be responsible). On the other hand, we were pretty surprised when our vet recommended that we have our Loki neutered at younger than 6 months (I think he was 4 or 5): she noticed that he was taking interest in the smell of female cats in her office. I've also heard of cases where cats could outright father kittens at just 4 months, so if you have any un-spayed females around, now would be a good time to separate them, mol. Also note that it's best if you can fix your cat BEFORE he starts displaying some of the "undesirable" behaviors typical to un-fixed cats (like spraying): some cats will forget those behaviors after they've been fixed regardless of age, but for others...once they're in the habit, it's hard to get them to knock it off.

Also, remember that neutering is a less invasive (and therefore safer) procedure than spaying, so you're lucky you've got a male smile


Short answer: In my opinion, now is a good time to at least talk to your vet about getting your baby neutered. Your vet may disagree and push you to wait till 6 months, and if that's what you want to do, by all means, do so (just make sure that he doesn't meet any un-spayed females in the meantime). In my experience, though, 4 months should be just fine, and it definitely sounds like your guy is ready laugh out loud
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Nerys

I'm a princess- and I know it.
 
 
Purred: Mon Jul 25, '11 9:57pm PST 
Edit to my previous post:
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that preventing undesirable behavior was worth putting a kitty's life at risk! If you and your vet have already decided that an early neutering is best for your pet, preventing troublesome behavior is just an "icing on the cake" reason, not something worth basing the whole decision on. (It's also not universal: a small minority of cats spray even after being neutered young, and many cats stop spraying even after being neutered much later in life.)
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May

Miss Misterious
 
 
Purred: Mon Jul 25, '11 11:11pm PST 
Hi Prince!
Kitties can be spayed and neutered at 4 month.
Johnie was neutered between 4 and 5.
Having your kitten done earlier does not harm them.
Our vets said that only difference really is on younger animal (especially female) the operation is slightly more difficult for vets to perform, but easier for animal to recover. They said that as long as animal is not tiny in size - it's no problem, especially for boy-kitties.

Edited by author Mon Jul 25, '11 11:17pm PST

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Rory

little red- biscuit head
 
 
Purred: Tue Jul 26, '11 7:13am PST 
Actually it's safe to do them as early as 3 months these days. That's when I got done, and I'm fine!
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Eko

Mr. Eko - dark, but- good-hearted
 
 
Purred: Tue Jul 26, '11 1:36pm PST 
My brother, Leo, and I were both neutered before 4 months. My mom hopes those vets who want to wait til 6 months have a good reason (maybe they do?) because she's had two friends with female cats go into heat (and one get pregnant) before the 6 month mark their vet was waiting for. She also knows of male cats marking (and I don't think it has to be spraying to be marking) around the 4 month mark if not neutered. If one of mom's cat were marking she'd have him in there tomorrow to be fixed. Good luck!
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Penny

Cat about town.
 
 
Purred: Tue Jul 26, '11 11:40pm PST 
Both of us have been fixed and we are about 4 months old now.
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Hunter

Master of- Disaster!
 
 
Purred: Thu Jul 28, '11 9:14am PST 
I got fixed the day before my 4 month birthday! Mom got me from the shelter, and if I were to be neutered there, it would be free. However, I had to weigh 4 pounds. I was only 2lbs when I got adopted so I had to wait. My vet only neuters boy cats after 4 months old. But I got neutered at the shelter.

Mom was told that I'd calm down, I wouldn't want to escape anymore, and I wouldn't be crazy after I got neutered. They were WRONG!!! I'm more crazy now than I was when I was a kitten. I've escaped a total of 5 times, and I get the zoomies on a nightly basis.

Every cat is different. If I was acting like you, Mom would have me neutered ASAP. Good Luck, and if I can get neutered you can too! It wasn't so bad. cat on moon
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♥- Nina- ♥

Jellybean the- queen <3
 
 
Purred: Thu Jul 28, '11 3:14pm PST 
I think it might be OK to nuter at 4 months, as long as he's strong enough and his balls have dropped. laugh out loud
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