Save Plants - Let Me Eat- Meat!!!
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|"I have two senior cats, will the raw food diet be different for them then my younger one(I think he's six, there's seven people and seven pets in my family. Ages can get confusing lol)?"
I don't do anything differant. The kittens get the exact same meal bags as I give to Rajah who is sixteen. There aren't any specially labeled mice in the wild - likewise you don't need special raw food for a kitten vs. a senior cat.
"I also have two females and a male, will it be different nutrition needs between gender and ages?"
Mine all get the exact same things.
"My senior cats still act like kittens though. We tried putting them on senior dry cat food and they started looking sick so we switched them back to adult cat. I don't know if that will be the same for raw food or if that information will be helpful or not but I thought I would put it out there."
If you think they act like kittens now just wait . Cats get a lot more energy when they are switched to raw because they are getting food that there body can use. They don't have to deal with all those carbs so their body's feel much better when eating raw.
For the meat, is there any specific place to get it or is it just like going to by chicken for myself?
I get most of the meat I feed from the grocery store. The LIS list has several differant idea's to find sources:
Work THE Lis List, you'll find your sources;
Here is a list of 42 possible sources for cheaper (or sometimes even free) meat.
If you belong to other groups, you might have already seen this posted as "The
Perhaps not all of the ideas will work for you, but whether you live in the city
or in a rural area, there are possibilities you may be able to use.
And if your goal is not to save money, but is instead to find the best quality
meat sources, this list may still give you some ideas of places to look.
You can use the ideas on this list for getting top quality meat, wild meat, free
meat, discounted meat, meat directly from the source - it all depends on how YOU
use it. By no means do you have to try all the ideas, but some may be very
useful to you.
If you have the space, get yourself a freezer, so you can take advantage of the
savings when you find them.
There are often freezers for free (or cheap) on Freecycle, Craigslist, and
Finding Cheaper / Free Sources of Meat (For Raw Feeding):
1) look up meat and poultry packers, plants, and
distributors in the yellow pages (or online). You may
be able to get great prices from them if you order in
bulk, and/or they may have a discount outlet that is
open to the public.
2) *****I get many of my best deals in Asian/Oriental
markets. I've also heard that Hispanic and Caribbean
markets have great variety and prices too. But not all
ethnic markets are the same - some are much cheaper
than others - you must visit a few and compare.
3) you may be able to join a barter group.
4) google breeders (i.e. rabbit, goat, lamb, etc.) who
are in your geographic area. They may have culls they
want to get rid of, or stillborns, or lower prices overall.
Don't forget 4-H breeders.
5) try bulk buying - Look up bulk suppliers and frozen
bulk foods in your yellow pages (or online).
6) if you have a Chinatown nearby, definitely make a
7) let your friends, relatives, and neighbors know you
want any freezer burnt or old meat when they clean out
their freezers, and tell them to pass the word along.
Freezer-burnt meat may be dried out on the edges but is
perfectly safe for pets as long as it has been frozen
all this time.
8) if you belong to a church or social group, tell those
members to mention it to their friends and relatives as
well. You may be allowed to put a notice on the
bulletin board or in the newsletter.
9) see if there are any co-ops or meat buying groups
near you. Check on Yahoo, or Google to see.
Searching for co-ops or meat buying groups is a bit
easier if you use “raw” and “BARF” as keywords,
and also use names or acronyms of your
9b) and here’s a website that lists a number of raw food
co-ops and groups:
10) try a free ad website, like Craigslist or Kijiji - it's
amazing what you can get for free or cheap. Here are
the most popular ones:
11) *****and I get meat, poultry, and fish all the
time (for free) through Freecycle. Join multiple lists
if you live or work close to the boundary of another list.
And join some of the other variations too:
12) some Walmarts and some Costcos and some Sams
Clubs have good deals, but you may want to make sure
it's not seasoned meat you're buying (most of the time
that is what they have, and some pets have difficulty
13) definitely watch the store flyers, and you can
usually see the rest of the flyers online (the ones that
don't get delivered to your home, but are only a short
14) ***** hands down, the bulk of my best deals have
been marked down meat at regular grocery stores. They
reduce it the day before it is going to expire, and I go
as early as I can in the morning to get it before it is gone.
15) tell friends and relatives who hunt and fish that
you want first dibs on any body parts they don't want.
You can probably get at least the organs and maybe the
head. Also ask them to put you in touch with their
other friends who hunt and fish.
16) a great tip I learned a while back – some restaurants
and caterers throw out things they don't use, like the
organs that come inside whole poultry, or raw meat
that falls on the floor. See if they'll save them for you.
Find somebody who knows somebody who works in a
restaurant or knows a caterer.
17) farmer's markets are great, but pick and choose
carefully for the best bargains. And sometimes at the
end of the day some vendors will reduce their prices,
cause they don't want to take it back with them.
18) some people contact taxidermists, who have no use
for the meat.
19) join the RawFeeding Yahoo Group and find people
on that list from your vicinity, and ask them where
they get their meat deals.
Join other raw feeding lists or other pet or breeder
related lists (there are many, some may even be
local to you), and ask if there are other raw feeders in
And there is also a Facebook rawfeeding group:
20) tell your butcher you want the meat that they
would normally throw out, that is almost out of date,
that people ordered and didn't pick up, stuff that was
dropped on the floor, their freezer clean-outs, and
parts that don't sell (like trachea, lungs, spleen,
etc.). Some butchers will save their trim for you (once
they get to know you). Build a relationship with them
first. Many butchers will give you these things for
free, once they know you (and especially if you are a
regular customer who buys meat for yourself).
21) yes, roadkill works too (where it is legal). In
some places you can get your name on the list and get
called when they have large roadkill (like deer). You
may be able to move to the top of the list if you say
you don't mind getting called at night or for kill more
than a couple of hours old.
22) you can raise your own meat/poultry if you have
23) post a message in CarnivoreFeed-Supplier if you
are in the U.S. or
CFS-Canada if you are in Canada, or
CFS-Australia if you are in Australia.
All of these groups specialize in matching up meat
suppliers with raw feeders:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?g id=118405634857097&v=wall&ref=ts#!/group.php?gid=118405634857097&v=w all&ref=ts
24) speak to local farmers. Also, you may also be
able to get their injured or old stock at very reduced
25) you can look for heart, tongue, and gizzards which
count as meat (as opposed to organ) in the world of
raw feeding, but are often cheaper than other muscle
26) find somebody who knows somebody who works at
the grocery store. They can introduce you to the meat guy,
who may become more willing to save stuff for you or
reduce items about to expire, once they know you.
27) check the internet. Some suppliers have affordable
prices, even after shipping costs are calculated.
28) double-whammy: if a meat is on special this week
at the grocery, go in and check the expiry date on the
packages. Then go back to get it when reduced again
(reduction on the reduction) the day of or day before
expiry (depending on their policy).
29) somebody had a great source a while back: some
schools (colleges) that teach butchering sell the meat
really cheap, that the students have worked on.
30) check out the meat processing plants and/or slaughter
houses – they process the animals for farmers or hunters
(amongst others). You can often get the left over pieces
for free. If you have the stomach for it, you can ask to go
through the gut barrels and trim barrels yourself.
31) ask a few of your local grocery stores and butchers
what it would cost to order things for you by the case.
32) someone mentioned that depending on where you
live you may be able to attend livestock auctions and then
get the animal butchered.
33) if you know any apartment building managers, ask
them about the frozen meat people leave behind when
they move out.
34) you may be able to order from restaurant suppliers.
35) find more hunters (and their unwanted meat) by
posting a notice on bulletin boards where they may
congregate (like feed, tractor, country supply, sports,
army supply, or gun stores), or at hunter check points,
and by posting in online hunter's forums. Hunters also
need to get rid of last year's catch to make room for this
36) if you live close to the waterfront, you may be able
to buy some of the day's catch as it comes in. if you are
close to a lake or river, also speak to people who may be
fishing for sport and have no interest in eating their catch.
37) find people who will be moving (and may not want to
lug all their freezer contents with them) by watching for
"sold" signs on front lawns in your neighborhood and
popping a note in their mailbox.
38) find a raw feeding buddy, maybe an hour's drive
away. When you each find a good deal in your own area,
buy twice as much. Then split what you find with your
buddy, once or twice a month.
39) viral e-mail – create a friendly e-mail, introducing
yourself and asking for old, freezer-burnt, and wild
meat and send it to everyone you know in your geographic
area. AND ask that each person receiving the e-mail
forwards it to everyone they know in your geographic
area. And so on.
40) put a “Wanted” ad in the Classifieds section of your
local newspaper. Using a headline with bold lettering, like
“ATTENTION: Homemakers/Hunters” may improve your
41) I recently saw a Craigslist ad where someone offered
to butcher road kill moose or deer (for free) so they could
keep half for themselves and give half to the person who
found the road kill.
42) start a freezer cleaning/clean-out service
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