Miranda's journey to Health

Help! Wisdom Needed!

June 28th 2013 8:00 am
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Mom posted this on Little Sweetie's page, but knows more people see my page, so she's putting it here, too. It is about a stray mama kitty (we have two of her kittens right now).

Mama kitty went to the vet to get "fixed" today. But her test came back positive for FIV. Now we fighting for her life. Mom knows it had to happen someday that someone would test positive. Feelings of dread and "now what do we do?" Mom doesn't really even know what this means. All the kittens have been negative. Could momcat's test be an error? The barn home for her has disappeared. The outside home she came from also won't take her back. Vet's office (Dr. Stacy is out of town) wants mom to decide if she should be put down. Need to know if there are helpful words of wisdom out there.

 
 

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Purred by: Hilda (Catster Member)

June 28th 2013 at 12:15 pm

FIV is not the death sentence it was originally thought to be. It was only "discovered" ~10 years ago, so knowledge about it is still fairly new. What is knows is that it's not as easy for cats to transmit this disease to each other as originally suspected. It is typically transmitted through fighting (has to be serious, drawing blood fights; not "spats" household cats might have with each other). FIV does compromise the cat's immune system and makes them more susceptible to illness, but they can still have good lives. I had a cat with FIV. He lived with my other two, non-FIV cats for years. I had them tested several times after he died (thyroid complications) and they never tested positive. If you know Gleek (sibling of Samoa, Newman, and Calvin), he has FIV. Don't feel pressured in putting this cat down!
Purred by: Hilda (Catster Member)

June 28th 2013 at 12:19 pm

Here is the link to Gleek's page: http://www.catster.com/cats/612935
Purred by: Skylar db#39A (Catster Member)

June 28th 2013 at 1:31 pm

Found this on the Cornell Vetrinary Medicine page

.....Because few, if any, cats ever eliminate infection, the presence of antibody indicates that a cat is infected with FIV. This test can be performed by most veterinary diagnostic laboratories and also is available in kit form for use in veterinary clinics. Since false-positive results may occur, veterinarians recommend that positive results be confirmed using a test with a different format.

• Infected mother cats transfer FIV antibodies to nursing kittens, so kittens born to infected mothers may receive positive test results for several months after birth. However, few of these kittens actually are or will become infected. To clarify their infection status, kittens younger than six months of age receiving positive results should be retested at 60-day intervals until they are at least six months old.

Also check out the pages for River http://www.catster.com/cats/1051661

and Orange Ruffy
http://www.catster.com/cats/1059134

FIV does not have to be a death sentence. It can compromise the immune system and cause health issues and extra vet expenses, but with good nutrition & regular vet care, I have seen many do remarkably well!
Purred by: Gleek (Catster Member)

June 28th 2013 at 2:18 pm

I'm an FIV kitty. Sometimes the test can come back positive and the cat might not have it. She should probably be tested again. There is a quick test they can do in the vet's office and one that is a little more expensive that has to be sent away.

FIV IS NOT A DEATH SENTENCE!!!! Cats with FIV can live peacefully without fear of transmission to siblings. It is transmitted through deep bite wounds. It is NOT transmitted through sharing of food/water bowls.

Because the immune system is compromised in FIV cats, a cat with FIV needs vet care immediately when problems arise. They also need to keep their toofies cleaned so that bacteria from the teeth don't cause problems.

My FIV manifests as seizures, but some cats show no signs of problems. My seizures are completely under control with medication.

Unless this cat is really aggressive around other cats and possible fighting could occur, there is no need to keep her separate from other cats.

My biggest advice is to read info from reputable sources on the internet. From our experience, many vets don't know the real facts behind FIV (and we've seen numerous vets over the years).

We'll be purring for this mama cat and her kittens.
Purred by: River (Catster Member)

June 28th 2013 at 2:53 pm

Hi there Miranda, we want to throw my voice into the lot as well, you are getting some awesome pawsome feedback here but I'm going to add to it with the most important fact again! FIV is NOT a death sentence. Check me out! In all my River Glory! hehehe! I'm FIV positive, have been since the day mommy and daddy adopted me (nearly five years ago!) You'd never know I have FIV if you didn't know. Can you tell from looking at me? Didn't think so, cause I look awesome! I'm big and playful and talkative and mischievous and cuddly and everything you think of when you think of great kitties! I just happen to also have FIV.

My mommy wrote an article about me for Lacey and Finney's mommy's webpage called IBDkitties. Here's a link to it, it has LOTS of info about FIV (I hope this link works...)

River Cat and FIV

The important thing to remember is that FIV is not highly contagious, not a killer, and you should never put a kitty down just because they test positive. Lots of vets don't know the facts, it's sad, but true. It took 3 different trips to find a perfect vet for me, but it paid off, she's awesome!

Here's the best fact ever, you know me and my sisfur Simone? We are crazy bonded, we're never far apart. We share food bowls, liter boxes, toys, water fountains, beds, we snuggle, we wrestle, we groom one another, we (sometimes) bite play rough, and just a few months ago sisfur had her blood tested for her dental work... she's STILL FIV negative!

It's also very important to remember that FIV may NEVER manifest itself in a kitty. Never. Not once. It's entirely possible to have FIV and live a long healthy life before passing on from something completely unrelated to it.

Please don't let the vet put down this kitty, she doesn't deserve that. We know how you feel. My parents were terrified when they adopted me. They ran through lists of terrible things that could happen, but none of them did. It's possible the FIV could manifest quickly and her health could decline quickly, but it's also possible it will never surface. Either way, it's not as bad as people fear. Remember, it's very likely that you humans will always out live us in the end. Please love her and respect her for whatever time she has. Life is about quality, not quantity in the end, and a kitty with FIV can have both. Just look at me, and Gleek, and Orange Ruffy, and the dozens of other kitties out there with FIV. Our parents have all been there in that moment of fear, but they pulled through and we are totally worth it! You can send me any questions you have, any at all! I've got lots of websites and resources you can look into! (There's a few links on my page along with some quick facts if you check out the stuff right above my friends!)
Purred by: Orange Ruffy (Catster Member)

June 28th 2013 at 6:37 pm

Hi Miranda's mom,
Please don't be worried! We are the Three FIV + amigos here! We have all lived together for years (me, Smokieboo, and Princess Antonia.

I have two words to say: NO SWEAT!

So...she's FIV+. First rule: some tests are faulty. Honestly. Snap tests are not to be trusted. A western blot needs to be run to confirm.

And so...if she is...

no big red warning sign will go off. The robot from Lost and Space won't come rushing out yelling 'warning! warning!'

Nothing at all will happen.

We suggest: the kitty be an indoor only kitty.

Thats it. Oh, and lysine. Add it to everyone's food. Good for the immune system!

FIV+ is not easy to transmit. We live with other cats here as you well know. None of the otehrs have gotten it. It can and usually is trasmitted via deep bite wounds, and sometimes not even then.

We all share the same litterboxs and eat from one anothers dishes, wrestle and play and again...no one has gotten it.

As our immune systems might be more compromised, you might want to do more healthy stuff, like vet check ups every so often, and maybe kitty suppliments-you can ask Auntie Lisa who knows alot about healthy cat stuff.

We promise that there is no danger to other cats unless the FIV+ cat is very aggressive with other cats. And we're not talking about a smack or hisses or wrestling around or any of that cat stuff.

If you're really nervous, please feel free to talk with our Mom...we're a family of 8 cats...and think, a rescue trusted a foster cat with all of us...so if they trusted their foster with us....what does that say?

:)
It's all ok-I promise.

love,
Ruffy-the Poet Cat of Catster and FIV+.
Purred by: Orange Ruffy (Catster Member)

June 28th 2013 at 6:37 pm

Hi Miranda's mom,
Please don't be worried! We are the Three FIV + amigos here! We have all lived together for years (me, Smokieboo, and Princess Antonia.

I have two words to say: NO SWEAT!

So...she's FIV+. First rule: some tests are faulty. Honestly. Snap tests are not to be trusted. A western blot needs to be run to confirm.

And so...if she is...

no big red warning sign will go off. The robot from Lost and Space won't come rushing out yelling 'warning! warning!'

Nothing at all will happen.

We suggest: the kitty be an indoor only kitty.

Thats it. Oh, and lysine. Add it to everyone's food. Good for the immune system!

FIV+ is not easy to transmit. We live with other cats here as you well know. None of the otehrs have gotten it. It can and usually is trasmitted via deep bite wounds, and sometimes not even then.

We all share the same litterboxs and eat from one anothers dishes, wrestle and play and again...no one has gotten it.

As our immune systems might be more compromised, you might want to do more healthy stuff, like vet check ups every so often, and maybe kitty suppliments-you can ask Auntie Lisa who knows alot about healthy cat stuff.

We promise that there is no danger to other cats unless the FIV+ cat is very aggressive with other cats. And we're not talking about a smack or hisses or wrestling around or any of that cat stuff.

If you're really nervous, please feel free to talk with our Mom...we're a family of 8 cats...and think, a rescue trusted a foster cat with all of us...so if they trusted their foster with us....what does that say?

:)
It's all ok-I promise.

love,
Ruffy-the Poet Cat of Catster and FIV+.
Purred by: River (Catster Member)

June 28th 2013 at 6:44 pm

Oh I double agree with Orange Ruffy! Tests can be faulty, definitely don't always trust them right away. Also, we've had two different rescue groups trust our family with their fosters as well! I'm just that easy to get along with, I'm no threat to other kitties! In fact, at the rescue I came from, I was just in the big room with all the other kitties, no danger what so ever. The rescue knew I was FIV positive, they just weren't worried one bit!
Purred by: ♥ Jezebel RIP ♥ (Catster Member)

June 28th 2013 at 11:45 pm

It's not a death sentence - many kitties live with it for years. It looks like everyone has given you really good info.
Purred by: Purincess Miranda (Catster Member)

June 29th 2013 at 5:07 am

We soooo supported by you all. Cannot thank you enough! Mom had a talk with Frances yesterday and for the moment the little mama is out of danger of being killed. Caring Hearts' main purpose is to rehome kitties, so Frances is afraid no one will want this little girl. Black and FIV+. We don't know how to fit any more kitties in here, so not certain what will become of her long term. Going to share everyone's comments and River's mom's article from IBDkitties site (how could I have forgotten about that!). Mom so glad she urged them not to put the little mom down yesterday!
Purred by: Buddy ♥ Angel (Catster Member)

June 29th 2013 at 1:25 pm

Hi Purincess Miranda,

I'm so glad that Little Mom is going to have a chance. :) I was also FIV+ in 1992 when I came to live with my family. The vet had been studying HIV in humans and he believed I could live with the disease (so many vets were recommending euthanasia then.)

Tigger, Taylor and Bob came to live with me over the years and I never did give them FIV. I died in 2002 of stomach cancer that my vet felt was unrelated to my FIV+ status. I was 18+ years old! I lived a long full life with FIV. The only thing that occurred was that I had to get my teeth cleaned more often, otherwise, no problems. :)

Love,

Buddy Angel
Purred by: Lily (Catster Member)

June 29th 2013 at 2:39 pm

Years ago Gordon, one of my cats who had come as a big blue tabby semiferal tom, tested positive for FIV. By this time he had been peacefully living as one of my housecats in a fairly large multiple cat family for several years. He lived to be almost 12 and was still healthy when my ex killed him (one of the big reasons why my ex became EX). My other cats who lived with him all tested negative for FIV. Lily is one of my cats who lived with Gordon during the last few years of his life. Mew, Kim, Midnight, and Cali all lived with Gordon. Mew lived with Gordon throughout most of Gordon's life.

So being FIV positive isn't a death sentence and the other cats in the household may never get the disease.
Some excellent facts on FIV may be found at this link.
http://www.pawsfla.com/info/display?PageID= 10542


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